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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    I intermingled a few other potential reasons in there. Bottom line, if someone who wears a gun on their hip for a living tells you to stop, turn around, jump up and down on one foot while howling at the fucking moon, it's not going to hurt you in the least to comply. It might momentarily damage your pride, but it won't make you permanently dead, like refusing/escalating the situation might.

    I'm just looking out for the stupids. seriously.
    You might be right to resist, but you could also be "dead right."
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    I'd like to know the racial make up of that jury...
    The jury had 9 whites, 3 blacks. That is 25% of the jury. Tulsa is 15% black population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I'd like to know the racial make up of that jury...
    See post #40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Better training for ALL. As I said, my parents taught (trained) me how to behave around people who carry guns on their hips for a living.

    If parents aren't doing it, then maybe society should adopt the PSA approach, like with the "click it or ticket" or "buzzed driving is drunk driving" campaigns.

    Maybe something like: "They're as scared of you as you are of them, but they have guns. Comply with their orders and no one gets hurt"
    As I said, you cannot possibly expect untrained citizens what to do when a cop goes nuts. There is no way fear and survival won't panic you in the moment. That can't be taught. You are not a professional. What your parents taught you can fly out the window in a matter of seconds if you are the one in danger. Imagine then being black knowing that the odds that a bad cop will kill you is also a part of the recipe. Black parents teach their children to never resist but in panic situations it may not be enough since they are still killed for moving wrong or saying something wrong even if it is not a real wrong thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Mr. Gaffer,

    96 years ago called. They want their lame canard back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    As I said, you cannot possibly expect untrained citizens what to do when a cop goes nuts. There is no way fear and survival won't panic you in the moment. That can't be taught. You are not a professional. What your parents taught you can fly out the window in a matter of seconds if you are the one in danger. Imagine then being black knowing that the odds that a bad cop will kill you is also a part of the recipe. Black parents teach their children to never resist but in panic situations it may not be enough since they are still killed for moving wrong or saying something wrong even if it is not a real wrong thing.
    You think this cop went "nuts"?

    Why would you say that?

    Seems more like it was the dead guy who went "nuts".

    Not from personal experience, but that's what PCP does to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    You think this cop went "nuts"?

    Why would you say that?

    Seems more like it was the dead guy who went "nuts".

    Not from personal experience, but that's what PCP does to people.
    Yes. I think the cop went nuts by panicking. That situation should never have ended up with a man dying. Had they come to help him it would have been a completely different outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Yes. I think the cop went nuts by panicking. That situation should never have ended up with a man dying. Had they come to help him it would have been a completely different outcome.
    And if the man had acted differently, he would be alive today.

    Maybe in jail, but alive.

    Rule #1 do not resist and always comply with the cops instructions, and the chances of survival will be greatly increased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    You think this cop went "nuts"?

    Why would you say that?

    Seems more like it was the dead guy who went "nuts".

    Not from personal experience, but that's what PCP does to people.
    I'd say she panicked. The other cop used a Taser at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweettee View Post
    I'd say she panicked. The other cop used a Taser at the same time.
    The jury ruled otherwise.
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