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    Veteran Member Canada - Geography game Champion, Geography Champion mtm1963's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    You seem to be the naive about how politics works.

    Grassroot money is the most important factor. It means the little people are fed up with the way this administration is going. BLOUTS get's most of his money from Pac's or Super Pac's.

    Will it be possible to flip 24 seats? Good chance of that if this administration keeps failing and creating chaos every day.
    why couldn't grass roots money win wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania for clinton?

    go ahead, blame it russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Why did vets reject Kerry?

    Because vets are regular voters who are also concerned about other issues, they don't vote as a group.

    You are assuming they do.
    I think that had more to do with the Switboat ads than anything else. Pretty brutal and that was a very close election.

    I've never said that vets vote only on vet issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    why couldn't grass roots money win wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania for clinton?

    go ahead, blame it russia.
    Because money doesn't win elections.

    If it did all corporations would just pick a company man, spend more money, and win everything.

    Doesn't work like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    The number of seats up.
    I've counted and in ordinary times it may be relevant but in these times I think republicans may be optimistic. Trump has made the mid term anything but predictable. As a side note: Utah does elect Democrats now and then. They need 4 seats and it is doable in a few of them. One dark horse you need to watch is whether one or both of the two Independents would switch to gain the majority. In Sander's case in particular, it is possible.

    Don't under-estimate how important Obamacare is to many of these states either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    why couldn't grass roots money win wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania for clinton?

    go ahead, blame it russia.
    Well the fact that Clinton didn't really bother to campaign in those states probably was a big factor in her loss...had nothing to do with money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    The Senate? What do you base that on? I'm sincerely asking.
    I'm basing it on the seats that are coming up in 2018. There is literally no path for the Democrats to pick up a +3 that they would need to take control of the Senate. The Republicans are only defending 8 seats while the Democrats are defending 25 seats (including two Independents that caucus with the Democrats). The Democrats would have to flip three and still defend all of their seats. It's just not happening.
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    Don't think anyone is making the case that the D's can take back the Senate.

    But if they take over the house they can stall many, many things on this Administration's agenda.

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    Hillary way outspent Trump.

    Pajama boy in Georgia spent ~$8 million and couldn't win 50% against a very large field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    I'm basing it on the seats that are coming up in 2018. There is literally no path for the Democrats to pick up a +3 that they would need to take control of the Senate. The Republicans are only defending 8 seats while the Democrats are defending 25 seats (including two Independents that caucus with the Democrats). The Democrats would have to flip three and still defend all of their seats. It's just not happening.
    I just answered my view to that for Spookycolt. I think in ordinary times I'd agree with you but this round I think it may be much less predictable. It isn't a given that voters in expected states will vote as one would expect due to Trump chaos and Obamacare. Then there is the possibility that if Sanders can give the majority to Democrats, he would. I asked you because I am not seeing a predictable outcome myself. Past patterns would go with your view but this may be anything but a normal midterm.

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