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    I've reading about this too on Twitter.

    Right now he seems to be the leading candidate for the "person of interest".

    Will see if that actually pans out. And if it does - holy crap...

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    If true this is getting worse every day.
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    But we have to admit,our Government is working.Makes me feel better .
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    Kushner will get a pre-emptive pardon and that will convince anybody still wondering just how crooked Trump and his administration are. Trump may even attempt to pressure the Deputy AG to fire Mueller.

    Can President Bush pardon people who haven't even been charged with a crime?

    In 1866, the Supreme Court ruled in Ex parte Garland that the pardon power "extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment." (In that case, a former Confederate senator successfully petitioned the court to uphold a pardon that prevented him from being disbarred.) Generally speaking, once an act has been committed, the president can issue a pardon at any time—regardless of whether charges have even been filed.

    While pre-emptive pardons remain very rare, there are a few notable exceptions. Perhaps the most famous presidential pardon of all time occurred before any charges were filed. Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon absolved the former president of "all offenses against the United States which he … has committed or may have committed or taken part in" between the date of his inauguration in 1969 and his resignation in August 1974.

    In other cases, presidents have pardoned individuals after criminal proceedings have begun but before a judgment has been handed down. In late 1992, less than a month before leaving office, President George H.W. Bush pardoned former Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger, who had been indicted earlier that year on perjury charges surrounding the Iran-Contra affair. (A lawyer for Roger Clemens' former trainer Brian McNamee claimed the pitcher might receive a similar pardon from Bush if he were ever indicted.) In addition, broad presidential amnesties—like the one President Carter issued to those who had avoided the draft during the Vietnam War—are essentially pre-emptive pardons issued to a large group of individuals.
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    If Trump pardons Kushner or anyone else before they are convicted of a crime, he might as well quit now.

    No point in being president at that juncture, other than living in the House. His own party will make him a pariah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    If Trump pardons Kushner or anyone else before they are convicted of a crime, he might as well quit now.

    No point in being president at that juncture, other than living in the House. His own party will make him a pariah.
    Singularity, Trump has supporters by the balls. People that are still supporting him will continue to support him no matter what. A confession in front of millions of people by Trump of high treason and selling secrets and influence to ISIS would some how be
    fake news or not really what he meant to say. Do I believe that if Kushner looks like he will get charged with a crime, Trump will give him a pardon. You betcha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    But we have to admit,our Government is working.Makes me feel better .
    Actually the government is threatening to work. So far it's all been talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    If Trump pardons Kushner or anyone else before they are convicted of a crime, he might as well quit now.

    No point in being president at that juncture, other than living in the House. His own party will make him a pariah.
    You're an optimist....
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