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    Chechen gay men hopeful of finding refuge in five countries

    Dozens of gay men who fled persecution in Chechnya are hoping to find safety in a handful of countries that have volunteered to help.

    Activists are in talks with five countries, two of them non-EU, the Russian LGBT Network told the BBC.

    Nine men have already been granted visas. Two of them went to Lithuania, which has announced its involvement.
    "It's very important to act, because they are suffering," Foreign Minister Linas Linkevicius told the BBC.
    He would not name the other countries involved but described them as "allies".

    His country's decision was an "implicit message" to Russia, he said, because "we are taking care of Russian citizens... [whose] rights were abused".
    Detained and tortured

    Reports of a brutal crackdown on gay men in the republic in southern Russia first emerged in early April through the respected Novaya Gazeta newspaper, sparking international condemnation.

    Its report, later backed up by activists, alleged that more than 100 victims - either gay or just perceived as being gay - were being held and tortured at a detention centre near Argun, 20km (13 miles) from the city of Grozny. At least three deaths were reported.

    The Russian LGBT Network has helped to evacuate 43 people from Chechnya, with dozens remaining in hiding in Russia as negotiations continue with the countries that might take them in.

    The organisation would not reveal the other countries involved apart from Lithuania. There have been calls in countries as far away as Australia for the men to be offered refuge.

    A Russian LGBT Network spokesperson said the UK, despite condemning the persecution, had not come forward to help with visas, while US embassy officials had privately said that visa applications would probably be denied.

    "We can't really lose time knowing that they are going to be denied," the spokesperson, who remained anonymous out of safety concerns, told the BBC. "They can't stay in Russia for too long, we know it's not safe for them to stay here."

    The UK Foreign Office told the BBC that officials in Moscow were lobbying the Russian government to protect the LGBT community in Chechnya. Claims for asylum need to be made in Britain, the Home Office said.
    "No one who is found to be at risk of persecution or serious harm in their country of origin because of their sexuality or gender identity will be returned there," it said.

    The US State Department has said that Chechens can apply for visas but told Buzzfeed News that there was no visa category specifically for "humanitarian relief".
    Chechen gay men hopeful of finding refuge in five countries - BBC News

    How can this country sit by and deny these folks asylum? It makes me ill. People wanted to know what Trump could do to help this situation, well- this is it, take these people in.
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    Bumping, because I can't believe no one has anything to say about this.

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    Well... I know one place that is NOT taking any more Chechens - Poland: Desperate Chechen Refugees Crowd Belarus Border Town With Dream Of Reaching EU

    He could try Scandinavia, they have taken lots of Chechens in the past. But, I guess, the idea is, that he NOT be among many of his own people, who could get violent towards him... Well... I have no idea, honestly. Hopefully he can get into US or Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Well... I know one place that is NOT taking any more Chechens - Poland: Desperate Chechen Refugees Crowd Belarus Border Town With Dream Of Reaching EU

    He could try Scandinavia, they have taken lots of Chechens in the past. But, I guess, the idea is, that he NOT be among many of his own people, who could get violent towards him... Well... I have no idea, honestly. Hopefully he can get into US or Canada.
    Canada has already expressed they're open to doing so:

    But Rainbow Railroad, a Canadian human rights organisation, has previously announced it was working with Russian LGBTI groups to help people at risk to escape.

    One source close to the Lithuanian government told EUobserver that Canada was one of the countries working with Lithuania.

    The US, on the other hand, has denied visas to roughly 40 gay Chechens, according to a Buzzfeed report.
    https://euobserver.com/lgbti/137976

    We should be leading this effort. But since Trump loves Russia, we'll do nothing.
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    So let's just give asylum to anyone that claims to be gay?

    Yea I don't see any problems with that.

    The lengths liberals will go to in order to get immigrants here amazes me.

    Well it would be an easy way for ISIS to get here, I wonder if we would give them money and a flight to relocate also.

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    Maybe I am stupid but if you are in a region that persecutes gays I probably wouldn't be holding my boyfriends hand in a public square.

    Gosh, no persecution.

    What a concept.

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    Spooky, I do not read your posts, as I have you on ignore. I'm sure whatever you said was completely stupid though. Kindly see your way to some other thread where people care what you think.
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    Maybe you shouldn't be ignoring me if you feel the need to respond to my posts.

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    I guess you just hate being ignored. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leekohler2 View Post
    I guess you just hate being ignored. Get over it.
    No, I just hate people talking to me after they say they are ignoring me.

    Either do it or don't, I don't care either way but don't be a hypocrite.

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