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    The religion of gays. The democrats put gays above the constitution
    ...and there it is.

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    I look at the way the LDS church gained tolerance and acceptance across this country. They were persecuted, ridiculed, and even killed for their beliefs. They didn't file lawsuit after lawsuit. They went on an education campaign. They walked the walk as well as talked the talk. When the Southern Baptists treated the Mormons like crap when they held their convention in Atlanta, the chance came to return the favor when the Southern Baptists held their convention in Salt Lake City. They didn't. They treated them like honored guests. When did this happen, you ask? June 9 - 11, 1998.
    I worked for Mormons for about 15 years. Found them to be some of the kindest people I have ever known. Very family orientated that take care of their own. I know they have that stigma they are a cult, but I just ignored that and had many private conversations with them about their religion and found them to be ok. Good story you shared

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Two rights have come into conflict here, the same sex couple's rights and the baker's rights. Unfortunately, some want to compel the baker by court order to put aside his religion.
    He can bake a cake and still be against same sex marriage. He would not be putting aside his religion.
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    ...and there it is.
    Its true, your parties leaders appoint judges that put Gay rights about Religious rights. The Supreme Court is going to rule on the Denver Bakery Case. Not many activist left on that court. This ruling could send Democrats back to the stone ages

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    I worked for Mormons for about 15 years. Found them to be some of the kindest people I have ever known. Very family orientated that take care of their own. I know they have that stigma they are a cult, but I just ignored that and had many private conversations with them about their religion and found them to be ok. Good story you shared
    Think about it, they were not only thought to be a cult but Joseph Smith, their founder was actually killed. This was in 1844. In the last 73 years they have went from a cult status to the fastest growing religion in the world. In some years they are the second fastest, in others first. Switching with Islam. They didn't sue people to make that happen. They educated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Think about it, they were not only thought to be a cult but Joseph Smith, their founder was actually killed. This was in 1844. In the last 73 years they have went from a cult status to the fastest growing religion in the world. In some years they are the second fastest, in others first. Switching with Islam. They didn't sue people to make that happen. They educated.
    Their beginning was on shaky ground, but the way Mormons have ended up is what counts. People like their family attitude. Pretty sure the ruling on this bakery case is going to side with the Baker. A recent ruling on the Tshirt company sided with them with they refused to make shirts for a Gay pride parade. The ruling was based on Free Speech. A business has the right to refuse to make a message they disagree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    He can bake a cake and still be against same sex marriage. He would not be putting aside his religion.
    So you are saying government should force a person to not be religious? That's a new concept

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    You are to partisan to see it or admit it.
    The "war" does not exist. You are making things up.

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    They should rename the Supreme Court to the Trite Court.

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    FILE - In this March 10, 2014 file photo, Masterpiece Cakeshop owner Jack Phillips cracks eggs into a cake batter mixer inside his store in Lakewood, Colo. The Supreme Court is taking on a new clash between gay rights and religion in a case about a wedding cake for a same-sex couple in Colorado. The justices said Monday, June 26, 2017, they will consider whether a baker who objects to same-sex marriage on religious grounds can refuse to make a wedding cake for a gay couple. (Brennan Linsley, File/Associated Press)

    By Kristen Wyatt | AP June 26 at 5:06 PM
    DENVER — A Colorado clash between gay rights and religion started as an angry Facebook posting about a wedding cake but now has big implications for anti-discrimination laws in 22 states.
    Baker Jack Phillips is challenging a Colorado law that says he was wrong to have turned away a same-sex couple who wanted a cake to celebrate their 2012 wedding.
    The justices said Monday they will consider Phillips’ case, which could affect all states. Twenty-two states include sexual orientation in anti-discrimination laws that bar discrimination in public accommodations.
    Phillips argues that he turned away Charlie Craig and David Mullins not because they are gay, but because their wedding violated Phillips’ religious belief.
    After the couple was turned away in 2012, they complained about Masterpiece Cakeshop on Facebook, then filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission. The state sided with the couple.

    “It solidified the right of our community to have a right to public accommodations, so future couples are not turned away from a business because of who they are,” Mullins said Monday.
    Phillips says that artisans cannot be compelled to produce works celebrating an event that violates the artist’s religion. A lawyer for Phillips pointed out that another Denver-area baker was not fined for declining to bake a cake with an anti-gay message.
    “The government in Colorado is picking and choosing which messages they’ll support and which artistic messages they’ll protect,” said Kristen Waggoner of the Alliance Defending Freedom, which took the baker’s case.
    The decision to take on the case reflects renewed energy among the high court’s conservative justices, whose ranks have recently been bolstered by the addition of Justice Neil Gorsuch.
    The Colorado case could settle challenges from at least a half-dozen other artists in the wedding industry who are challenging laws in other states requiring them to produce work for same-sex ceremonies.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.02f925e8ac05

    This is an important case being ruled on by the Supreme Court. There has been many cases where owners of Christian businesses were fined and or sued for refusing to serve Gay weddings. A ruling from the Supreme Court could change the issue where a Christian owned business has the right to refuse business if it goes against their beliefs. The courts have accepted some beliefs and denied others, so the SC is going to rule on what beliefs are acceptable or if religious beliefs equal discrimination. Its been a hot issue that needs to be settled.
    I hope that his customers like the taste of his hair in their cakes.
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