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    Any first strike on the Korean peninsula without South Korea's direct approval would be an act of moral cowardice and complete disregard for human life, decades of friendship and close cooperation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    US is the one with most weapons in the world, and bigger military budget than the next ten countries combined. US is the one invading countries and waging war all over the world. But you are worried about others committing aggression against you? lol
    A key characteristic of RW conservatives, at least in this country, is a fear of pretty much everything and everyone that does not march in lock-step with their political/social philosophy
    And what they do not understand or fear them automatically hate and wish to destroy.
    Oh yeah, and paranoia, they are REALLY fucking paranoid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    I don't think calling Kim Jong un out is the way to go, do you?
    Okay, hold on. If you do not think calling Kim Jong Un out is the way to go, what do you think that we should do? Sanctions? That worked so well in the past. Truly, tell us what should President Trump do that you would be satisfied in this situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Trump and Kim Jong Un are like a couple of chimpanzees charging, and shaking branches at each other.
    I get that you don't like President Trump or Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un. Calling them chimpanzees changes what? What did President Obama do that was any better? He imposed sanctions and had harsh words for North Korea. Did they stop their tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Actually NK is extremely successful in what they want to be.

    It could be argued that they have produced the most successful system in the world.

    Not for taking care of people of course but as far as implementation of what they want that state to be.

    And I highly doubt lil' kim is running anything over there, I am sure the military assumed control once his father died, he is nothing but a figurehead for the people with little to no actual power.

    All their warmonger talk is little more than propaganda for their people, they know what will happen if they act on it. There is absolutely no way they come out ahead if they initiate military action.

    Whether that is from them being nuked or simply stopped with conventional means they cannot win in any scenario and it doesn't take a genius to know that.
    Why do you think that Kim Jung Un is not thinking that he would come out ahead if he were to launch a missile strike against the United States? Are we going to put boots on the ground? Are we going to use nuclear weapons? Would we kill civilians? I believe that all three are highly unlikely. It is more likely that we would launch a few conventional weapons destroying a few military assets, then pursue a diplomatic solution through the United Nations. Think about it, where is the downside for North Korea? What have we, the United States done in recent years that would give a leader of a failing state any reason to think that we would destroy his country? This isn't a desert area. This is a highly populated country. The USA doesn't do civilian collateral damage any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    US is the one with most weapons in the world, and bigger military budget than the next ten countries combined. US is the one invading countries and waging war all over the world. But you are worried about others committing aggression against you? lol
    Let's think about it. Kim Jung Un has declared that he was building and testing weapons that could reach out and touch the USA. He has now demonstrated that he has that capability. The government of the country has starved its people literally to spend developing that weaponry. I'm betting that North Korea is looking for some kind of deal where they agree to abandon their nuclear ambitions in return for concessions from the USA and maybe other countries. Should we have to pay countries to be good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Okay, hold on. If you do not think calling Kim Jong Un out is the way to go, what do you think that we should do? Sanctions? That worked so well in the past. Truly, tell us what should President Trump do that you would be satisfied in this situation?
    Sanctions and trying to find some way to get China to cooperate. It may involve conceding the South China Sea issue. I don't know --- but aggressive military action on the Korean peninsula is out of the question. Any such conflict would risk everything for little reward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Sanctions and trying to find some way to get China to cooperate. It may involve conceding the South China Sea issue. I don't know --- but aggressive military action on the Korean peninsula is out of the question. Any such conflict would risk everything for little reward.
    Ultimately, we chose to divide the peninsula and to keep Kim in power after the Soviets lost the ability to defend him. We have to live with the consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Let's think about it. Kim Jung Un has declared that he was building and testing weapons that could reach out and touch the USA. He has now demonstrated that he has that capability. The government of the country has starved its people literally to spend developing that weaponry. I'm betting that North Korea is looking for some kind of deal where they agree to abandon their nuclear ambitions in return for concessions from the USA and maybe other countries. Should we have to pay countries to be good?
    I remember when my young daughter was afraid of the Doctor. She didn't want him anywhere near her.

    The doctor didn't argue, or threaten - he left the room, and came back with a bunch of balloons, one for checking her ears, her heart, etc.

    As he was carrying out his examination, he explained that it wasn't bribery, but positive reinforcement.
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