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    This was the fear of LGBT community that this paper with Johns Hopkins' name used has given the paper a air of validity to embolden bigots to shit on the LGBT community.

    John Hopkins said it's ok...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    It seems to have worked for 300 years.

    Peer review is part of the process. Scientific consensus is far more important.

    Galileo had no peers. But scientific consensus concurred with his discoveries.
    My article suggests peer review needs to be "improved." I agree with that. What say you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    This was the fear of LGBT community that this paper with Johns Hopkins' name used has given the paper a air of validity to embolden bigots to shit on the LGBT community.

    John Hopkins said it's ok...
    That would be politics. Using "science" for confirmation bias is the problem with today's science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    My article suggests peer review needs to be "improved." I agree with that. What say you?
    The problems the article says is a problem is has nothing to do with the process, it has to do with getting one's papers accepted in the top scientific journals.

    That is a selection process, not a problem with the reviewing itself. There are less 'prestigious" journals a scientist can release his work to...it just has less bang.


    What problems do you see?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    That would be politics. Using "science" for confirmation bias is the problem with today's science.
    Your statement has no relevance to my statement. If this paper has no association with John Hopkins, then the author's should not be allowed to use the Institutions name falsely. That is fraud.

    That has nothing to do with politics or science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Um, that is reflexive gibberish.

    Legitimate medical journals do peer review before publishing.
    TNVolunteer73 has no clue what peer review even means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Your statement has no relevance to my statement. If this paper has no association with John Hopkins, then the author's should not be allowed to use the Institutions name falsely. That is fraud.

    That has nothing to do with politics or science.
    Suing scientists who do not agree with your political and social aspirations is wrong and hurts the scientific process. It hurts us all.

    You may well be a proponent of Political Correctness first and formost but that's a road best avoided.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

    Lysenkoism (Russian: Лысе́нковщина, tr. Lysenkovshchina) was a political campaign against genetics and science-based agriculture conducted by Trofim Lysenko, his followers and Soviet authorities. Lysenko served as the director of the Soviet Union's Lenin All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences. Lysenkoism began in the late 1920s and formally ended in 1964.

    The pseudo-scientific ideas of Lysenkoism assumed the heritability of acquired characteristics.[1] Lysenko's theory rejected Mendelian inheritance and the concept of the "gene"; it departed from Darwinian evolutionary theory by rejecting natural selection.[2] Proponents falsely claimed to have discovered, among many other things, that rye could transform into wheat and wheat into barley, that weeds could spontaneously transmute into food grains, and that "natural cooperation" was observed in nature as opposed to "natural selection".[2] Lysenkoism promised extraordinary advances in breeding and in agriculture that never came about.

    Joseph Stalin supported the campaign. More than 3,000 mainstream biologists were sent to prison, fired,[3] and others were executed as part of a campaign instigated by Lysenko to suppress his scientific opponents.[4][5][6][7] The president of the Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, was sent to prison and died there, while scientific research in the field of genetics was effectively destroyed until the death of Stalin in 1953.[2] Research and teaching in the fields of neurophysiology, cell biology, and many other biological disciplines was also negatively affected or banned.[8]...

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    by THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D.20 Oct 2016225
    In a remarkable case of agenda politics eclipsing science, America’s largest LGBT group has threatened harm to Johns Hopkins University if it doesn’t censor the scientific findings of leading scholars on the origins of homosexuality and transgenderism.

    In a recent major study titled “Sexuality and Gender: Findings from the Biological, Psychological, and Social Sciences,” researchers from Johns Hopkins found that there is virtually no scientific evidence that people are born gay or transgender.
    In response, the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the most powerful lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer advocacy group in the country, labelled the report an “attack on LGBT communities” and threatened to penalize Johns Hopkins University if it does not distance itself from the study.
    HRC Foundation’s Healthcare Equality Index has begun rating hospitals with a numerical score this year and will evaluate whether hospitals’ practices reflect “responsible citizenship” (read: LGBT-friendly). If Hopkins’ leadership refuses to censor the study, “its Healthcare Equality Index score will be reduced substantially,” the LGBTQ group stated.
    The scholars conducting the study bear the highest credentials in the field. Dr. Paul R. McHugh is arguably the most important American psychiatrist of the last half-century, and served as director of the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Science at Johns Hopkins University for 27 years. Importantly, during McHugh’s tenure, the institute pioneered work with transgender individuals.


    In their 116-page report, the scholars analyzed research from the biological, psychological, and social sciences, and concluded that many of the most frequently heard claims about sexuality and gender are not supported by scientific evidence.
    “Some of the most widely held views about sexual orientation, such as the ‘born that way’ hypothesis, simply are not supported by science. The literature in this area does describe a small ensemble of biological differences between non-heterosexuals and heterosexuals, but those biological differences are not sufficient to predict sexual orientation, the ultimate test of any scientific finding,” the report said.
    Ever faithful to its agenda, the Human Rights Campaign wants to bully Johns Hopkins into stifling free scientific inquiry when the results run contrary to its deeply held beliefs and desires. It is willing to punish a world-class institution for protecting academic freedom.
    Fortunately, officials at Johns Hopkins seem to have enough integrity to reject these heavy-handed attempts, at least for now.
    LGBT Group Threatens Johns Hopkins Over Study on Homosexuality

    More bullying by Gay rights activist against science. If Gays are for equality, why are they against scientific research? I would like to hear from the Liberal science people why Gays would be against science, could it be they are afraid of the truth? Of course we know its a choice , because there is no science to support their claims. Those that tell us global warming has scientific proof will tell us Gays don't need to be proved by science. If they don't need proof, then why should we be sued for discrimination if what they are is not really true.


    You only believe science when it appears to agree with you...yet when science says there was no world wide flood, science then is all the sudden wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knight View Post
    You only believe science when it appears to agree with you...yet when science says there was no world wide flood, science then is all the sudden wrong.
    I just don't see any of that in his op.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    I just don't see any of that in his op.
    You need to read his posts then you will see.

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