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    Exclamation 6 months in, a record low for Trump, with troubles from Russia to health care (POLL)

    What can Americans expect from a man who wants to take away Medicaid and other important programs and benefits that they truly need for their survival other than to turn around and rate him LOW. Of course they are going to rate Trump low designed to send him a clear message that they are very upset with him and his administration. He needs to shape up and get with what Americans really want and it is not to have things taken away from them but rather important programs augmented in order to help them as they expect to be done by their paying taxes for such services, benefits and programs.








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    6 months in, a record low for Trump, with troubles from Russia to health care (POLL) - ABC News
    By GARY LANGER

    "Americans give President Donald Trump the lowest six-month approval rating of any president in polls dating back 70 years, punctuated by questions about his competence on the world stage, his effectiveness, the GOP health care plan and Russiaís role in the 2016 election."
    "Yet the Russia controversy is just one on the list of Trumpís troubles. Just 38 percent say heís making significant progress toward his goals; 55 percent think not. With no apparent help from the G-20 summit, two-thirds donít trust him to negotiate with other world leaders -- or with Russian President Vladimir Putin specifically -- on Americaís behalf. And about half say the countryís world leadership has grown weaker under Trump; just 27 percent say itís gotten stronger."
    "On his partyís signature campaign issue, health care, Americans by a 2-1 margin prefer Obamacare over the Republican plan to replace it, 50-24 percent. (Another quarter either want something else entirely, 17 percent, or are undecided, 9 percent.) ďStrongĒ preference for the existing law surpasses strong preference for the GOP plan by 20 percentage points. Relevant to proposed GOP cuts in the growth of Medicaid, the public by a broad 63-27 percent says itís more important to provide health care coverage for low-income Americans than to cut taxes."

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    He's at 36! 3% and people will get very very worried (the professional class around him, especially the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS). 33% is some kind of threshold. (Not sure why but I guess it's that much closer to the 20's).
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    That combines the MONTH if you are talking about 39. A whoooole lot has happened within the combined 4 weeks. Did you read the numbers you actually posted--yes, dates matter.

    PS Unless this all goes away this week, wait'll next weeks numbers with the last 4 days 'baked in'.
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    He's been flirting with that 40% over/under line for a while.

    The WashPo/ABC poll can be compared with itself over a long time period. I think the fact that neither Clinton nor Obama ever reached this level is telling. Even the massively unpopular GWB didn't get this far down until well into his second term.

    The bigger overall question is this one: Usually a president is never more popular than in his first few months in office. The trend is generally downward from there, for obvious reasons. Where does Trump have to go?

    Here's another big question (I think): GWB's numbers were going down pretty fast in the months after his inauguration (though not as far as Trump's). What saved them? An even on September 11 of his first year. After that his approvals soared for months or years, going down only as the foolishness of his adventure in Iraq became apparent--long enough into the future that he could get re-elected on the strength (among other things) of Americans' reluctance to change horses in the middle of a battle.

    Question: Will Trump manufacture himself an armed international conflict for the same purpose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    That combines the MONTH if you are talking about 39. A whoooole lot has happened within the combined 4 weeks. Did you read the numbers you actually posted--yes, dates matter.

    PS Unless this all goes away this week, wait'll next weeks numbers with the last 4 days 'baked in'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    He's been flirting with that 40% over/under line for a while.

    The WashPo/ABC poll can be compared with itself over a long time period. I think the fact that neither Clinton nor Obama ever reached this level is telling. Even the massively unpopular GWB didn't get this far down until well into his second term.

    The bigger overall question is this one: Usually a president is never more popular than in his first few months in office. The trend is generally downward from there, for obvious reasons. Where does Trump have to go?

    Here's another big question (I think): GWB's numbers were going down pretty fast in the months after his inauguration (though not as far as Trump's). What saved them? An even on September 11 of his first year. After that his approvals soared for months or years, going down only as the foolishness of his adventure in Iraq became apparent--long enough into the future that he could get re-elected on the strength (among other things) of Americans' reluctance to change horses in the middle of a battle.

    Question: Will Trump manufacture himself an armed international conflict for the same purpose?
    ABC is playing the poll number game. hey look at our poll, its the one that matters.

    polls go up and down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    ABC is playing the poll number game. hey look at our poll, its the one that matters.
    Seems like everyone who pays for a poll is going to publicize its results.

    polls go up and down.
    Yes. And Trump's numbers are startling low--historically low--and lower now than ever before. That's news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Seems like everyone who pays for a poll is going to publicize its results.

    Yes. And Trump's numbers are startling low--historically low--and lower now than ever before. That's news.
    its old news.

    trump's poll numbers have been like this for 2 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    its old news.

    trump's poll numbers have been like this for 2 months
    It's not old news. Anytime Trump hits a new low/high in a separate poll, it's news. Trump recognizes this himself. Didn't he publicize a Rasmussen that put him at 50% approval? This even though that 50% was a moment that lasted about a day in their multi-day tracking poll and then fell back to something like -10 almost immediately?

    Sauce for the goose....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    He's been flirting with that 40% over/under line for a while.

    The WashPo/ABC poll can be compared with itself over a long time period. I think the fact that neither Clinton nor Obama ever reached this level is telling. Even the massively unpopular GWB didn't get this far down until well into his second term.

    The bigger overall question is this one: Usually a president is never more popular than in his first few months in office. The trend is generally downward from there, for obvious reasons. Where does Trump have to go?

    Here's another big question (I think): GWB's numbers were going down pretty fast in the months after his inauguration (though not as far as Trump's). What saved them? An even on September 11 of his first year. After that his approvals soared for months or years, going down only as the foolishness of his adventure in Iraq became apparent--long enough into the future that he could get re-elected on the strength (among other things) of Americans' reluctance to change horses in the middle of a battle.

    Question: Will Trump manufacture himself an armed international conflict for the same purpose?
    We had to support boy george if we loved our country.

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