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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    You would think the last election would have taught them a thing or two about the accuracy of their precious polls. But nope - they continue to tout them and treat them as gospel.

    Especially this OP in particular - who must scour the web daily looking for some poll that agrees with him so he can write a thread about it. Rarely do I ever visit this board where he is not going on about how Trump is evil and citing some silly poll to prove it as if that is suppose to make us take him more seriously.
    and what excuse are you going to use this time for the personal attacks? Newsflash. Trump is the POTUS. As such, he's subject to criticism. What would be nice is if for once his supporters tried to mount a substantive defense of that criticism based on their merits. That's what's rare. Typically, it's the same old butthurt whining about "fake news" and how poor wittle Trump is being treated unfairly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Not exactly ....

    But, why would that even be relevant if true.

    The only thing accurate about polls these days is the fact they will be inaccurate 100% of the time.

    Why do you guys still believe the polls or the fake news MSM?
    can you show us where Trump said anything bad about the polls before he was elected?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    and what excuse are you going to use this time for the personal attacks? Newsflash. Trump is the POTUS. As such, he's subject to criticism. What would be nice is if for once his supporters tried to mount a substantive defense of that criticism based on their merits. That's what's rare. Typically, it's the same old butthurt whining about "fake news" and how poor wittle Trump is being treated unfairly.
    Why should I try to mount a substantive defense against one of your silly poll threads?

    You are proving my point for me. You act as if these polls are evidence of anything. They aren't. Citing some dumb poll followed by a diatribe about Trump is not a substantive argument. So it doesn't deserve a substantive defense.

    What it deserves is scorn. Which is exactly what I gave it.

    And I don't really see anything I said as a personal attack. I simply said you cite polls in an effort to make us take you more seriously. It doesn't work.
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    It has to reach a higher number but public sentiment can actually change the odds of Trump being impeached. I suspect it will take inarguable evidence that Trump absolutely worked with the Russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    It has to reach a higher number but public sentiment can actually change the odds of Trump being impeached. I suspect it will take inarguable evidence that Trump absolutely worked with the Russians.
    What it would take is an actual crime having been committed.

    It's a scary thing when Pelosi is the voice of reason and moderation who is trying to calm the rabid masses. The democratic party is quickly flying off the handle due to TDS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Why should I try to mount a substantive defense against one of your silly polls?

    You are proving my point for me. You act as if these polls are evidence of anything. They aren't. Citing some dumb poll followed by a diatribe of Trump is not a substantive argument. So it doesn't deserve a substantive defense.

    What it deserves is scorn. Which is exactly what I gave it.
    and yet you can't provide any argument as to why the polls are flawed? Nor can you even provide any evidence of your so-called "point" ( what ever that's suppose to be). Meanwhile, you're engaging in personal attacks making all sorts of "false claims" projecting and flame-bait. Oh and btw, what diatribe against Trump? All the OP says is that the polls are holding steady. That's all. There are no presumptions , or conclusions, on the polls beyond that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    What it would take is an actual crime having been committed.

    It's a scary thing when Pelosi is the voice of reason and moderation who is trying to calm the rabid masses. The democratic party is quickly flying off the handle due to TDS.
    There are other ways to vote for impeachment based on some of the issues/crimes he has already been part of. But to impeach a President doesn't require a crime alone. He may also arguably be impeach for political incompetence and if not by invoking the 25th Amendment. Public sentiment matters to impeach. Congress won't impeach without public sentiment favoring it so the amount of voters wanting him impeached could become important.

    An impeachment move is the easiest part, the vote for impeachment can end with an acquittal however once he is impeached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    What it would take is an actual crime having been committed.

    It's a scary thing when Pelosi is the voice of reason and moderation who is trying to calm the rabid masses. The democratic party is quickly flying off the handle due to TDS.
    the funny thing is when many see the term "Trump derangement syndrome" they typically think people are talking about how deranged Trump is, himself, or his supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    impeaching President Trump is more popular now than impeaching President Richard Nixon was at the start of the Watergate scandal, according to a Monmouth University poll.

    The poll, released Monday, found 41 percent of Americans support impeachment for Trump. In comparison, 26 percent supported Nixon’s impeachment six months into his second term, as the Watergate scandal was breaking.

    Monmouth University Polling Institute director Patrick Murray said the higher percentage of Americans wanting impeachment is caused by “the current epidemic of hyper-partisanship that was simply not prevalent forty years ago.”
    Poll: More support impeaching Trump than Nixon at start of Watergate | TheHill

    holding steady at around 40 percent it would seem. Even after the latest revelations about Don Jr......
    reason?

    widespread media support for impeachment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    and yet you can't provide any argument as to why the polls are flawed?
    The last election should have taught you that polls are flawed. I should not have to make that argument.

    I can't tell you how many people on this board told me it was impossible for Trump to win the last election because of polls (including you) who touted some poll about his popularity among minorities and assured me it was impossible for him to win just based on the numbers.

    It seems you still have not learned your lesson though.

    Polls are flawed Watchman. Stop putting so much stock in them. They don't deserve it.
    Last edited by Jeremy; 17th July 2017 at 02:59 PM.

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