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    White European culture

    So what is this white European culture, exactly, that these racists are so keen to preserve?

    Generally speaking, the further to the right you are in this country - and these racists are pretty far to the right, to put it mildly - the more you despise Western Europe for its tolerance, inclusiveness, secularism, lack of interest in guns, and support of education, critical thinking, and classical arts. So what is so valuable about European culture that those very same people are prepared to take to the streets and use violence to defend it?
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    It's not European culture they are after.

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    These guys want to make America White Again and allow only immigrants into America if they are from the "white parts of Europe" and are Christian. Quite frankly these White Nationalists can kiss my bright white ass as I am from the heritage of European Christians and these bigots do not represent me, or what I stand for. My family in Europe, got away from Fascists and Nazis and I sure as hell don't want them or hear them were I live. They deserve no kind of legitimacy. Free speech does not give people the right to spread hate freely.
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    If we are going to have 72 threads on the subject maybe at least one should name the various groups and their goals. White Nationalist is not the same as neo-nazi, and so on. WN's literally want their own territory, yes. But not all of America.

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    I'm actually not all that interested in which particular groups have which particular goals. I'm just interested in all the times I've been hearing "white European culture" being thrown around so casually over the last few months with the discussion about immigration, and then particularly over the last few days. The very people who keep talking about it seem to be the ones who despise it the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tnbskts View Post
    I'm actually not all that interested in which particular groups have which particular goals. I'm just interested in all the times I've been hearing "white European culture" being thrown around so casually over the last few months with the discussion about immigration, and then particularly over the last few days. The very people who keep talking about it seem to be the ones who despise it the most.
    Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    If we are going to have 72 threads on the subject maybe at least one should name the various groups and their goals. White Nationalist is not the same as neo-nazi, and so on. WN's literally want their own territory, yes. But not all of America.
    They don't want their own territory per se. They already think America belongs to them.

    White nationalism is a type of nationalism or pan-nationalism which holds the belief that white people are a race[1] and seeks to develop and maintain a white national identity.[2][3][4] Its proponents identify with and are attached to the concept of a white nation.[5] White nationalists seek to ensure the survival of the white race, and the cultures of historically white states. They hold that white people should maintain their majority in majority-white countries, maintain their political and economic dominance, and that their cultures should be foremost.

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    Here's one that I found about a guy mad his picture was posted on twitter. He talks about it a bit. Doesn't make much sense.

    A torch-wielding white supremacist caught on camera marching in the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville claims he is not “an angry racist” and just wants to preserve European culture.

    History and politics student Peter Cvjetanovic, 20, saw a photograph of himself from Saturday’s rally holding a torch and apparently shouting shared online, one by a Twitter account called ‘Yes, You’re Racist.’
    He said: “As a white nationalist, I care for all people. We all deserve a future for our children and for our culture. White nationalists aren’t all hateful; we just want to preserve what we have.”
    “I came to this march for the message that white European culture has a right to be here just like every other culture,” Cvjetanovic added, explaining he wanted to demonstrate against what he described as the “replacement of white heritage” and had come out to the march because of its protest over the removal of a statue of Confederate Army General Robert E. Lee in Charlottesville.
    https://www.newsweek.com/man-picture...650236%3famp=1

    He does not elaborate on wtf that means. Interesting he is protesting the loss of European culture because a statue of Robert E Lee is being taken down. After all, most people remember Robert E. Lee as a key figure of European history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    They don't want their own territory per se. They already think America belongs to them.
    Right. They want their own nation. Not America.

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    Right. They want their own nation. Not America.
    But the goal is the same: a white ethno-state where each race lives in a separate nation. White supremacists and their ilk see diversity as a threat, Segal said. A popular white supremacist slogan is, "Diversity is a code word for white genocide."George Hawley, a political scientist at the University of Alabama, said a sense of white victimhood is key to the movement. "There is a sense that whites are under siege and being deliberately dispossessed by hostile elites who wish to usher in a new multicultural order," Hawley said. "They dislike the culturally-foreign immigrants who enter the United States and work for low wages, and they dislike the political and economic elites that invite them in. They are also hostile to the media and academia, which they contend push an anti-white message."

    What would a white nationalist US look like?

    You're getting a glimpse of it right now, according to Daryl Johnson, owner of domestic terror monitoring group DT Analytics and a former counterterrorism expert at the Department of Homeland Security. The anti-immigration xenophobia is rising," Johnson said. "US policy is becoming more isolationist -- the building of the (border) wall, the travel ban, mass deportations. These were ideas that I read about 10, 15 years ago on white supremacist message boards. Now they're being put forth as policy." Johnson recounted a chilling chapter from "The Turner Diaries," a fictional account of a white supremacist guerrilla army that has been called the "bible of the racist right."The chapter is titled, "The Day of the Rope" and describes mass lynchings of thousands of "race traitors." "The 'Turner Diaries' laid out a vision of the US under white supremacist government," he said. "People would walk outside and literally see for as far as they could see people hanging from street lights in nooses."

    Heidi Beirich, director of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups and extremists, said some white supremacists advocate genocide and ethnic cleansing. "You would have to forcibly remove people," she said. "This is cattle-cart stuff. It also shows that their plans aren't very well thought out. They're at best aspirational."

    Who are white nationalists and what do they want? | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV
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