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    As long as the twitter account is a private one and not associated with any public or government organization, I see nothing legally or morally wrong with this.

    The FFRF are free to express a negative opinion of it, but there is nothing they can do to stop it, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    They are personal Tweets.

    What you are saying is that anyone in congress can't believe in God.
    That's what you think our Constitution maintains, that no one in Congress can believe in God?

    That's a pretty wild statement even from you.
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    As long as it is his personal Twitter account and not a governmental account (i.e., his official Senate Twitter account), I do not believe there is a violation, here. A personal account is private (no matter how much he may allow the public access to it), whereas an official governmental account would be public. The difficulty in the issue lies in the fact that social media blurs what used to be rather straightforward lines between public and private, and here he seems to be allowing public access to a personal account, as though it is his official account.

    I think a relevant consideration would be the degree (if any) to which he discusses public business or issues through that particular account. The wisest thing for him to do would be to have two accounts: 1) the personal Marco Rubio account; and 2) the Senator Rubio account. As long as kept the content separate - Bible verses on the personal account, public business on the public account - there would be no blurry line, and all relevant clauses of the First Amendment would be upheld. This way, there would be no question of appearance of impropriety in his public account being used to express an official government position on a religious question; it would all come from the private account.

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    Let him tweet away. Not on his Senatorial account, on his own dime, and he can't use Senator next to his name and no official logos.
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    "Guns blazing!" The drama!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) continues to face backlash for sharing daily Bible verses on Twitter, and this time, the largest atheist organization in America is trying to hit the Christian senator where it hurts.


    A portion of the letter from the foundation to Rubio read:
    We protect the constitutional principle of separation between state and church, and educate the public on matters relating to nontheism.
    We understand that you have been tweeting bible verses from @MarcoRubio to nearly three million followers. It appears that you began tweeting the bible in mid-May and have been doing so regularly ever since. This is not an errant bible verse or two, but more than 60 bible verses in three months. That’s enough verses to tweet the entire Book of Jude. Twice. One of the most recent verses, tweeted during the eclipse, appears to suggest that the eclipse is the work of god, quoting Exodus 10:21.1. …
    Of course, we have no issue with people reading and discussing the bible. The road to atheism is littered with bibles that have been read cover to cover. But it is not for the government in our secular republic to promote one religious book over others or to promote religion over nonreligion.
    Doing so violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution. …
    The Freedom From Religion Foundation, a Wisconsin-based atheist group, on Tuesday attacked Rubio’s outpouring of love for God, Jesus, and the Bible in an open letter, and called for the senator to stop sharing his faith in a public manner. The organization has publicly condemned Rubio for sharing Bible verses on his Twitter page.
    To remedy Rubio’s “infractions,” the group suggested one of two options: Rubio should either stop quoting Scripture on his personal Twitter account or purge all mentions of the fact that he holds a publicly elected office as a U.S. senator on the same Twitter page.https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...re-dead-wrong/

    This is the problem with what the FFRF wants, which is to limit freedom of speech. They have been doing this for a very long time with teachers, football coaches, basically people that work for the government. Rubio is a Senator that would be very hard to take down for the FFRF, so you notice no threats of a lawsuit. Their intentions are very clear here. Stop free speech so they can control what people hear. The FFRF doesn't want the Free Exercise of the First Amendment to happen, so they speak of the preventions of government establishing a religion. Rubio is just sharing Bible verses with people and its not harming anyone. The more the FFRF keeps this up it becomes clear what their intentions are. They are losing this war on religion because they are the only ones that care.

    Why is the OP dishonestly misrepresenting Atheists in this OP? The FFRF do not represent Atheists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) continues to face backlash for sharing daily Bible verses on Twitter, and this time, the largest atheist organization in America is trying to hit the Christian senator where it hurts.


    A portion of the letter from the foundation to Rubio read:
    We protect the constitutional principle of separation between state and church, and educate the public on matters relating to nontheism.
    We understand that you have been tweeting bible verses from @MarcoRubio to nearly three million followers. It appears that you began tweeting the bible in mid-May and have been doing so regularly ever since. This is not an errant bible verse or two, but more than 60 bible verses in three months. That’s enough verses to tweet the entire Book of Jude. Twice. One of the most recent verses, tweeted during the eclipse, appears to suggest that the eclipse is the work of god, quoting Exodus 10:21.1. …
    Of course, we have no issue with people reading and discussing the bible. The road to atheism is littered with bibles that have been read cover to cover. But it is not for the government in our secular republic to promote one religious book over others or to promote religion over nonreligion.
    Doing so violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution. …
    The Freedom From Religion Foundation, a Wisconsin-based atheist group, on Tuesday attacked Rubio’s outpouring of love for God, Jesus, and the Bible in an open letter, and called for the senator to stop sharing his faith in a public manner. The organization has publicly condemned Rubio for sharing Bible verses on his Twitter page.
    To remedy Rubio’s “infractions,” the group suggested one of two options: Rubio should either stop quoting Scripture on his personal Twitter account or purge all mentions of the fact that he holds a publicly elected office as a U.S. senator on the same Twitter page.https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...re-dead-wrong/

    This is the problem with what the FFRF wants, which is to limit freedom of speech. They have been doing this for a very long time with teachers, football coaches, basically people that work for the government. Rubio is a Senator that would be very hard to take down for the FFRF, so you notice no threats of a lawsuit. Their intentions are very clear here. Stop free speech so they can control what people hear. The FFRF doesn't want the Free Exercise of the First Amendment to happen, so they speak of the preventions of government establishing a religion. Rubio is just sharing Bible verses with people and its not harming anyone. The more the FFRF keeps this up it becomes clear what their intentions are. They are losing this war on religion because they are the only ones that care.
    Question for clarification. Is @MarcoRubio the Senator's personal account, or his Senate account. By Senate account, I mean, is this the account he uses to tweet about Senate business, and his work as a Senator? If it is the former, I would agree with the assessment of the OP, actually. Even a senator is allowed to say whatever he'd like, privately. If, however, it is the latter, then actually FFRF is correct in their complaint. By using an official government account to tweet out bible verses, it is, de facto, the government preaching a specific religion at you, which is an absolute Constitutional "no no".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I suppose you are right.

    It is limiting speech but for a specific reason.

    This is why liberals are so dangerous.
    Liberals know Conservatives unifying factor is their faith and Conservative principles. Attack someone like Rubio that helps build faith in his party and they are successful in their mission

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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    The Freedom From Religion Foundation is actually practicing free-speech, not limiting it.
    Yes, they are practicing free speech and trying to get Rubio to limit his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Sands View Post
    I have no problem with it. It's called politics. And I love politics so I don't mind at all. He's free to quote whatever he wants and the people against it can say whatever they want and I have not problem with that either. I vote democratic anyway and it doesn't bother me one bit.

    Sent from my Z833 using Tapatalk
    So you seem to be for Rubio's freedom of speech, good for you.

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