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    Berkeley mayor calls for antifa to be classified as crime gang

    BERKELEY MAYOR CALLS FOR ANTIFA TO BE CLASSIFIED AS CRIME GANG AFTER CLASHES AT WEEKEND PROTEST

    Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin has called for authorities to tackle left-wing violence by classifying members of antifa, the loosely organized group of “anti-fascists” who believe that violence is acceptable in countering right-wing extremism, as a gang.

    A largely peaceful demonstration in Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Civic Center Park was disrupted Sunday by black-clad antifa counterprotesters, who jumped over police barriers and chased Trump supporters, according to multiple news reports.

    Organizers had called off the “No Marxism in America” event earlier after strict police measures were introduced, but hundreds of counterdemonstrators and a small group of right-wing protesters gathered regardless.

    Arreguin said that new measures were required to tackle a violent fringe of left-wing demonstrators.

    “I think we should classify them as a gang,” said Arreguin, as quoted by CBS. “They come dressed in uniforms. They have weapons, almost like a militia, and I think we need to think about that in terms of our law enforcement approach.”

    Arreguin said that although he does not support the far-right, tougher measures were required to counter left-wing violence, and he called for nonviolent protesters to take a stand.

    Berkeley Mayor Calls for Antifa to be Classified as Crime Gang After Clashes at Weekend Protest
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    Terrorist group would be more appropriate, but they have stuck to beatings and assaults only, so far... Not enough stabbings to call it a trend. Give them time, your Antifa won't let you down. (Maybe not yours, but whoever bought them as the good guys)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    BERKELEY MAYOR CALLS FOR ANTIFA TO BE CLASSIFIED AS CRIME GANG AFTER CLASHES AT WEEKEND PROTEST

    Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin has called for authorities to tackle left-wing violence by classifying members of antifa, the loosely organized group of “anti-fascists” who believe that violence is acceptable in countering right-wing extremism, as a gang.

    A largely peaceful demonstration in Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Civic Center Park was disrupted Sunday by black-clad antifa counterprotesters, who jumped over police barriers and chased Trump supporters, according to multiple news reports.

    Organizers had called off the “No Marxism in America” event earlier after strict police measures were introduced, but hundreds of counterdemonstrators and a small group of right-wing protesters gathered regardless.

    Arreguin said that new measures were required to tackle a violent fringe of left-wing demonstrators.

    “I think we should classify them as a gang,” said Arreguin, as quoted by CBS. “They come dressed in uniforms. They have weapons, almost like a militia, and I think we need to think about that in terms of our law enforcement approach.”

    Arreguin said that although he does not support the far-right, tougher measures were required to counter left-wing violence, and he called for nonviolent protesters to take a stand.

    Berkeley Mayor Calls for Antifa to be Classified as Crime Gang After Clashes at Weekend Protest
    Oh well. Here's hoping the Nazis, KKK, white-nationalists and alt-right aren't far behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    BERKELEY MAYOR CALLS FOR ANTIFA TO BE CLASSIFIED AS CRIME GANG AFTER CLASHES AT WEEKEND PROTEST

    Berkeley Mayor Jesse Arreguin has called for authorities to tackle left-wing violence by classifying members of antifa, the loosely organized group of “anti-fascists” who believe that violence is acceptable in countering right-wing extremism, as a gang.

    A largely peaceful demonstration in Berkeley’s Martin Luther King Civic Center Park was disrupted Sunday by black-clad antifa counterprotesters, who jumped over police barriers and chased Trump supporters, according to multiple news reports.

    Organizers had called off the “No Marxism in America” event earlier after strict police measures were introduced, but hundreds of counterdemonstrators and a small group of right-wing protesters gathered regardless.

    Arreguin said that new measures were required to tackle a violent fringe of left-wing demonstrators.

    “I think we should classify them as a gang,” said Arreguin, as quoted by CBS. “They come dressed in uniforms. They have weapons, almost like a militia, and I think we need to think about that in terms of our law enforcement approach.”

    Arreguin said that although he does not support the far-right, tougher measures were required to counter left-wing violence, and he called for nonviolent protesters to take a stand.

    Berkeley Mayor Calls for Antifa to be Classified as Crime Gang After Clashes at Weekend Protest
    To what end? I don't think mere gang membership alone is a crime, even if that gang is the Hell's Angels. Prosecutors still have to prove assault, or at least conspiracy.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but this designation doesn't seem to aid law enforcement in any way.
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    If they're gonna target this political group, target the other side too.
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    Assuming this is a continuation of the black bloc tactics under a different name. Which I'm pretty sure is the case. There's no group. It's a tactic that anyone can use on any random given day.

    What they could do is give police authority to detain anyone wearing a mask and search for weapons. But not sure if that's constitutional here, there, or anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Assuming this is a continuation of the black bloc tactics under a different name. Which I'm pretty sure is the case. There's no group. It's a tactic that anyone can use on any random given day.

    What they could do is give police authority to detain anyone wearing a mask and search for weapons. But not sure if that's constitutional here, there, or anywhere.
    I was just thinking the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    To what end? I don't think mere gang membership alone is a crime, even if that gang is the Hell's Angels. Prosecutors still have to prove assault, or at least conspiracy.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but this designation doesn't seem to aid law enforcement in any way.
    Also - the main motivation of all these groups is attention.

    I'm loathe to give it to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    Assuming this is a continuation of the black bloc tactics under a different name. Which I'm pretty sure is the case. There's no group. It's a tactic that anyone can use on any random given day.

    What they could do is give police authority to detain anyone wearing a mask and search for weapons. But not sure if that's constitutional here, there, or anywhere.
    In most U.S. jurisdictions, there has to be probable cause to believe that the mask is intended to facilitate / escape identification in connection with a separate crime. So, my read of that is, people can get arrested and removed from the area, but if charges are going to hold up there has to be evidence that the detainees conspired to do something illegal.
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    If they're gonna target this political group, target the other side too.
    What other side? What group on the 'other side' is showing up in masks and creating violence?
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