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    I just asked a Politico guy what's up. He seems to suggest that Trump balking at this, just letting it officially become law without his signature in 10 days and daring Congress to either do something about it or let sleeping dogs lie, is entirely possible. The White House is not saying anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I just asked a Politico guy what's up. He seems to suggest that Trump balking at this, just letting it officially become law without his signature in 10 days and daring Congress to either do something about it or let sleeping dogs lie, is entirely possible. The White House is not saying anything.
    Why should the White House respond? They know damned well that this congressional Kabuki dance is a giant nothing-burger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    No, not really.

    There are many sides.

    This "Two Sides" narrative, is created by people who always wish to DIVIDE us, even as they ignore the monsters on their side of the aisle.

    Just basic human nature.
    ...No, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    It is a fallacy.

    There were TWO SIDES starting shit in Charlottesville.

    There was ONE WHITE SUPREMECIST ASSHOLE who killed a woman, and, harmed others.

    That is REALITY.

    We can deny reality. We can ignore reality. But, that does not change it.

    But, he should still sign this fluff. It's a nice, bi-partisan statement, that says a little, and does, nothing. (So, quite an achievement for Congress, these days!!!!)

    And, fortunately, despite the media's support and spin, people ARE starting to see Antifa and other Left Wing Domestic terror groups for what they are.
    What a load of shit. And no, only fucking racist fucking assholes see those protesting against nazis as on the same level. Everyone protesting against fucking racist nazis deserves a medal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    --True. Just as hundreds of Antifa and Black Lives Murder individuals were summoned from across the nation, all in the hopes of assaulting people and starting shit.

    AGAIN: What happened in Charlottesville, is that TWO groups came looking for a fight. Surprise! Surprise! They found it.....



    --Okay. Well, if you can't see what is observable, and admit what is known, then, there is no reason attempting to argue the point with you.



    --I agree, he should. Don't know why he wouldn't.



    --ROFLMAO!!!!!


    --So. "Defying" a fluff statement by Congress, that does NOTHING, is an impeachable offense.... (Question: How does one "defy" something that provides for nothing to be done???)....But, lying to a Grand Jury, overstepping the Constitutional limits of Executive Authority, and, using the IRS for partisan intimidation are not!

    (And people wonder why I have come to absolutely LOATHE the American Federal Government!!!!)
    Only a fucking racist piece of shit could agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Passed both chambers unanimously. UNANIMOUSLY.

    But it was introduced as a joint resolution, rather than a resolution of each chamber passed concurrently, for the specific purpose of forcing Trump to sign something that assigns responsibility for the Charlottesville violence to white supremacists. That the GOP leadership and all factions signed on to this specific hand-slap shows that he is starting to test their patience. And now the clown is dithering, doing exactly what his opponents who voted Aye hoped he would do, and which his few remaining genuine supporters in Congress desperately hoped he would not.

    He will probably sign it, today, or at the latest tomorrow. He has no real choice, same as the Russia sanctions bill ... an override is all but guaranteed. But it's just one more instance where Trump has stepped over homeplate rather than swing at a straight-line 90 mph fastball. If he should refuse to sign, or especially if he vetoes, then all hell will break loose.
    Mr. Singularity,

    The premise of your post is at best, disingenuous, and at worst, an out and out lie.

    Nowhere in your post or your link does it say that President Trump has not committed to signing to the joint resolution, nor has it said that he has been asked the question. And, your source starts out with the failed contention that it is unclear that the President will sign it, even though the text of the opinion piece actually says:

    "It’s hard to see why Trump wouldn’t sign..."

    Sorry to prove you as a dishonest poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Passed both chambers unanimously. UNANIMOUSLY.

    But it was introduced as a joint resolution, rather than a resolution of each chamber passed concurrently, for the specific purpose of forcing Trump to sign something that assigns responsibility for the Charlottesville violence to white supremacists. That the GOP leadership and all factions signed on to this specific hand-slap shows that he is starting to test their patience. And now the clown is dithering, doing exactly what his opponents who voted Aye hoped he would do, and which his few remaining genuine supporters in Congress desperately hoped he would not.

    He will probably sign it, today, or at the latest tomorrow. He has no real choice, same as the Russia sanctions bill ... an override is all but guaranteed. But it's just one more instance where Trump has stepped over homeplate rather than swing at a straight-line 90 mph fastball. If he should refuse to sign, or especially if he vetoes, then all hell will break loose.
    You got trolled by Trump again.

    He loves doing that to Dims.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I just asked a Politico guy what's up. He seems to suggest that Trump balking at this, just letting it officially become law without his signature in 10 days and daring Congress to either do something about it or let sleeping dogs lie, is entirely possible. The White House is not saying anything.
    Looks like your prognostication skills suck.

    White House's Sanders: Trump 'absolutely' will sign Charlottesville resolution - POLITICO

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    There is no link. Exactly what is it he is supposed to sign? With what little I have to go on, for the first time I might say good for Trump. There was no 'original sin' in the people that came with their permits. That was an odd statement from the OP. both sides came looking for a fight and they got what they wanted. We should not allow counter-protesters anywhere near permit-holding protesters no matter who is on what side of that.

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    OK I see where the link was embedded now:

    Now, three weeks later, Congress has unanimously passed a resolution that condemns white supremacy and calls on the Trump administration to do more. The measure, which passed in the Senate on Monday and in the House on Tuesday, was purposely introduced as a joint resolution, which requires the president’s signature, rather than a concurrent resolution, which does not.

    Why do we need a resolution to condemn hate groups, and if we are to have one, why only whites? Black hate groups are OK? Antifa is OK? All other hate groups are OK? What in the ever loving fuck?

    I understand the GOP is trying to save their party, but this is stupid.

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