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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    I like that sunset provision. One of the reasons the last Congress didn't pass an AUMF to fight ISIS was that the Obama Administration wanted to extend provisions of it into the next presidency. We shouldn't let one president determine how another conducts his war strategy.
    There's no reason to not have a sunset other than wartime defense spending, which we cannot afford in perpetuity. The president will retain unilateral authority to go kill something newly threatening for up to 60 days and then get Congress' approval for more time.
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    The Paul's are always good for one thing. Too bad they are too stupid to realize that corporations cannot be left to regulate themselves.
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    How many times did Obama ask for a new vote for an updated better defined 'law' from congress for this? 10, 20, 30? I don't know but he sure kept telling him to give him one. Is it a formal process? Don't know. He sure mentioned it a WHOLE LOT.

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    Sen Rand Paul's amendment was denied, won't be voted on.
    Told ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    What the hell difference does it make if we still have a dysfunctional Congress? The only reason Congress abandoned their war making power to begin with is because, as an institution, they quite simply don't have the courage to declare war when it's necessary, nor to oppose war when it isn't.
    To be fair, that's been true for decades. Every Congress is its own institution. We are now enjoying the 114th Congress. No Congress has passed a declaration of war since the 77th Congress. The War Powers Act was instituted in the 93rd Congress.

    That lack of spine has been developing over a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    To be fair, that's been true for decades. Every Congress is its own institution. We are now enjoying the 114th Congress. No Congress has passed a declaration of war since the 77th Congress. The War Powers Act was instituted in the 93rd Congress.

    That lack of spine has been developing over a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Rand Paul likely to get his war vote - CNNPolitics

    Whether or not you agree with the military action, the no president should have open authorization to engage in endless war.
    Rand has his flaws, but he has my vote locked down if he ever decides to run. I don't think he can win, but it's issues like this that I wish Americans were more serious about. Instead we'll hear the same FAKE issues drug out during election season, abortion (already decided), Social Security (nobody does anything either side)Taxes (either we give it to rich people or THINK we give it to poor people, everyone else pays either way) and on and on..

    Thank you Rand..

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    Thank gawd for Google.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    To be fair, that's been true for decades. Every Congress is its own institution. We are now enjoying the 114th Congress. No Congress has passed a declaration of war since the 77th Congress. The War Powers Act was instituted in the 93rd Congress.

    That lack of spine has been developing over a long time.
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon View Post
    Rand has his flaws, but he has my vote locked down if he ever decides to run. I don't think he can win, but it's issues like this that I wish Americans were more serious about. Instead we'll hear the same FAKE issues drug out during election season, abortion (already decided), Social Security (nobody does anything either side)Taxes (either we give it to rich people or THINK we give it to poor people, everyone else pays either way) and on and on..

    Thank you Rand..
    Hell, if you're going to support a cartoon character, then why not simply write in Mickey Mouse?
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