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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I'm sure you would. You would go to watch the Friday Night Fights at a bar with your friends, because you've heard that the new up and comer is a great fighter. The referee will start off the match with the usual "Now shake hands and come out playing a full contact sport involving punching which is clearly not fighting".

    Then you'll go home and spank your kid without ever hitting him, punch a hole in the wall without ever hitting it, and drunkenly "hit the sack", but you'll miss the bed and knock your head against the night table, without hitting it either, (because none of those things has the exact same meaning as hitting.)
    How about we put aside the word for a moment and consider the small amount of pain caused by a spank, which is nothing like boxing.

    When I was about six my friend and I stood at a wire fence a couple of blocks from our homes, looking at a large dry field of yellow grass. He had recently found some matches and wanted to light a few. I saw no reason not to, so we did. One caused a little fire, which we thought was pretty funny. We had no idea it would catch on. The fire began to spread. As it turned into a blazing grass fire we were delighted. It was like magic. The fire was moving fast now, causing a lot of smoke, and people began noticing. Someone called the fire brigade who were there pretty quickly. I wandered away from the action and found my father waiting, in his car. He asked me what happened. I told him. He opened the back door of the sedan, sat on the seat with his legs outside, put me over his knee and spanked me. It hurt, and I was pretty choked up about it, but I was always careful with matches after that. Whenever someone else was careless with their matches or cigarettes, I’d tell them not to be. I’ve always thought since that it’s pretty stupid to start fires. Without that punishment I may have gone the other way. I may have been fascinated with the power the matches gave me. I might have decided to repeat the adventure, and if so, a firebug or arsonist might have been created. The spanking snuffed any chance of that out.

    If you were there you would oppose the spanking. You’d tell my father he was a thug and that he was “abusing” a child. If you managed to stop him, you’d be so proud. But you might have also created an arsonist.

    So, here’s a question for you. A boy is playing tag with his friends. He isn’t watching the terrain in front of him carefully enough, and fails to notice the small pothole ahead. He trips and is sent crashing onto his knees, scraping them badly. The nasty pain, which will last for days, would cause him to consider this mistake and remember to watch more carefully when running, next time.

    Let’s return to the point one millisecond before his knees hit the ground, and instead of putting Mother Nature in charge of the pain, we’ll put you, StanStill, in charge. Mother Nature stands up to let you take over her ‘pain console’. Once you press the button labelled ‘resume’, time will continue and the boy’s knees will hit the gravel. You have the pain lever in front of you, and no other controls. You can set the pain from zero to a hundred. Skinned knees would normally be between 10 and 20. So it’s up to you Stan. Would you pull the lever and push the button to give the boy the pain he would normally receive for his mistake, or would you make it zero? Me, I’d have no trouble setting it at 10 because I know that kids need those experiences in order to learn. Without them, they can suffer horrific injuries and die young. How about you? What would you set the pain lever at, Stan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet69 View Post
    The only time I ever spanked my daughter was when she wouldn't get it through her head to stay away from the swimming pool. The last straw was when she sneaked out to the lanai pool area and accidentally locked us out of it.

    I rushed to get the spare key and went through the house and out to the pool. She got two whacks on her backside and I think I felt worse about the whole thing than she did. But, she never went near the pool without one of us again.
    That’s a great example of how little it takes, and how the parent often feels worse than the child. People who oppose this always think of maniacs they came across as children. One crazy person who beats the living daylights out of kids has nothing to do with all the thousands of responsible parents who use a spank sensibly.

    As a boy I had a friend (Mark) whose father went too far with discipline, and it used to send shivers up my spine to listen to him. Here’s a conversation from when I was about 12:

    Rob: How long will it take to get there?
    Mark: About three hours.
    Rob: Are you sure it’ll be there?
    Mark: Was last time we looked.
    Rob: A two headed lizard?
    Mark: Yup. Long as my forearm.
    Rob: And we can swim there too?
    Mark: I told you, there’s a swimming hole with cliffs.
    Rob: Do your parents know where you are?
    Mark: Nah, dad would never let me go.
    Rob: And if he finds out?
    Mark: He’ll belt me with a piece of wood.
    Rob: Really?
    Mark: First, he’ll tell me to get a piece of wood from the back shed.
    Rob: Then?
    Mark: He’ll tell me that if the piece of wood breaks…
    Rob: Yeah?
    Mark: …then I’ll have to select a bigger one and he’ll start again.
    Rob: Seriously?
    Mark: Yup.
    Rob: Did the wood ever break?
    Mark: Nah. I just make sure to get a big enough one.
    Rob: Geez, I’d hate to have your father mate.
    Mark: How about yours?
    Rob: He’d spank us. My last one was about 6 years ago when I started a fire...

    Mind you, Mark was a little like Dennis the Menace. I sometimes wondered if he was fibbing about this, because he always looked pretty healthy to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    That’s a great example of how little it takes, and how the parent often feels worse than the child. People who oppose this always think of maniacs they came across as children. One crazy person who beats the living daylights out of kids has nothing to do with all the thousands of responsible parents who use a spank sensibly.

    As a boy I had a friend (Mark) whose father went too far with discipline, and it used to send shivers up my spine to listen to him. Here’s a conversation from when I was about 12:

    Rob: How long will it take to get there?
    Mark: About three hours.
    Rob: Are you sure it’ll be there?
    Mark: Was last time we looked.
    Rob: A two headed lizard?
    Mark: Yup. Long as my forearm.
    Rob: And we can swim there too?
    Mark: I told you, there’s a swimming hole with cliffs.
    Rob: Do your parents know where you are?
    Mark: Nah, dad would never let me go.
    Rob: And if he finds out?
    Mark: He’ll belt me with a piece of wood.
    Rob: Really?
    Mark: First, he’ll tell me to get a piece of wood from the back shed.
    Rob: Then?
    Mark: He’ll tell me that if the piece of wood breaks…
    Rob: Yeah?
    Mark: …then I’ll have to select a bigger one and he’ll start again.
    Rob: Seriously?
    Mark: Yup.
    Rob: Did the wood ever break?
    Mark: Nah. I just make sure to get a big enough one.
    Rob: Geez, I’d hate to have your father mate.
    Mark: How about yours?
    Rob: He’d spank us. My last one was about 6 years ago when I started a fire...

    Mind you, Mark was a little like Dennis the Menace. I sometimes wondered if he was fibbing about this, because he always looked pretty healthy to me.
    You can remember the exact conversations you had at the age of twelve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    You can remember the exact conversations you had at the age of twelve?
    Yes, the long term memory is still good. Some stand out more than others. How often do you go hunting two headed lizards? As it turned out we couldn’t find it, but Mark returned with his brothers and caught it. I didn’t get to see it but over the years from about 10 to 13 we caught plenty of other lizards, snakes, turtles, rabbits, pigeons, gold fish, yabbies, frogs and tadpoles. Kids. What can you do? These days that would be forbidden no doubt. Turn over a rock now and you’ll find a Greenie with a placard jumping up at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Yes, the long term memory is still good. Some stand out more than others. How often do you go hunting two headed lizards? As it turned out we couldn’t find it, but Mark returned with his brothers and caught it. I didn’t get to see it but over the years from about 10 to 13 we caught plenty of other lizards, snakes, turtles, rabbits, pigeons, gold fish, yabbies, frogs and tadpoles. Kids. What can you do? These days that would be forbidden no doubt. Turn over a rock now and you’ll find a Greenie with a placard jumping up at you.
    I have found several two headed blue bellies. That doesn't mean I remembered the exact conversation I had with the friend with whom I was out hiking in the woods when I was twelve.

    I remember the two headed rattlesnake we later found too. But any attempts at exactly what was discussed would be gross confabulation.

    I remember seeing a mother bear teaching her cub how to nab trout underwater on Slate Creek. What I was discussing with my dog at the time completely eludes me though even though I was trying to keep her from chasing the bears off.

    Do you frequently have visions of "greenies" jumping at you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    I have found several two headed blue bellies. That doesn't mean I remembered the exact conversation I had with the friend with whom I was out hiking in the woods when I was twelve.
    Could that have something to do with us having different brains, different sexes and different genes? Did you think all brains were equal?

    I remember the two headed rattlesnake we later found too. But any attempts at exactly what was discussed would be gross confabulation.
    Yes, I have a good memory for converstions. I remember word perfect my older brother telling me in 1982 that I would never need more than one megabyte. “You’ll never need more than one megabyte!” he declared. I remember my fifth grade teacher belting with the edge of a ruler and then trying to strangle me, yelling, “Why won’t you cry! Why won’t you cry?”

    I remember seeing a mother bear teaching her cub how to nab trout underwater on Slate Creek. What I was discussing with my dog at the time completely eludes me though even though I was trying to keep her from chasing the bears off.
    Wow – you must have been quite a Tomboy. I wish we’d had one with us while we ambled over the hills and valleys, but most girls would never do that in those days.

    Do you frequently have visions of "greenies" jumping at you?
    They’re in all our faces these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    The Left proudly say they are the advocates of gun control, to stop gun violence and murder, yet they threw the most important gun control away decades ago. Today’s young liberal anarchists and commies barely know that their hippy parents made the idiotic decision to abandon discipline in schools, and then in families. They even made it illegal for parents or teachers to discipline children.

    As a result society has been manufacturing millions of murder brats every year for decades. First the Left create the problems inherently found in a nation of murder brats, and then they start stamping their feet over gun control.

    When I was a young man nobody had safety locks on their kitchen drawers. Nobody needed them because kids were well behaved (thanks to discipline). We would tell them once to never open the drawers or cupboard doors, and that’s all that was needed. One instruction. Kids would obey because they knew they’d get spanked otherwise.

    As the years went by I noticed others putting child safety locks on their kitchen drawers and cupboard doors. It was annoying because every time I bought a house I had to remove them. I would ask the owners why they did this, and they would all say, “To stop our kids opening them of course.” When I saw their brats running around causing mayhem I realized these zombie parents had provided their brats no discipline whatsoever. No wonder they needed safety locks on everything.

    Years later I was told by local councils that I had to put temperature regulators on all my hot water systems. Why? Because brats would turn hot shower or bath taps on and scold themselves. Again, we didn’t have that problem because our kids were told ONCE not to do such things, and that was all that was needed.

    In the old days kids were told never to point a gun at others, and they obeyed. End of story. No mass slayings by kids. Now the Left, who wanted all these child locks, hot water restrictors and drugs to control their brats, want gun controls because their brats are busy shooting everyone.

    Do any of them ever stop to consider what damage their parents did to society by removing discipline? Have any of them got the brains to realize we need to reinstall it?

    Reinstall discipline now and you won’t have any more murder brat mass murder, in say, 50 years. At least your grandchildren can enjoy a world without it.
    This OP is entirely out of touch with reality.

    First off, if this had anything to do with libs, then you'd almost never see these shootings in more conservative states. Strike one.
    Next, if our society actually created "millions" of "murder brats", then why are there only 8-10k gun homicides per year? Strike two.
    Finally, your suggestion that reinstalling "discipline" and you won't have any more mass murder for the next 50 years is amazing.... since there has never been a 50 year period of no mass murder any time in the history of our species... Strike three.

    You're out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    This OP is entirely out of touch with reality.

    First off, if this had anything to do with libs, then you'd almost never see these shootings in more conservative states. Strike one.
    Already covered. From above:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    You have to remember that in all States, regardless of whether they are red or blue, schools are dominated by the Left. Teachers are nearly all Liberal. Also, laws about child discipline were put in place by liberal governments long ago. I’d like to see Republicans remove them but that would cause mountains of Fake Outrage from Fake News. Most conservative politicians are told by their advisors that if they want to win they need to cut down on controversial promises. The conversation would go like this:

    Politician: And another thing you can put on our plank is that I will restore discipline in schools and families.
    Advisor: By overturning liberal legislation that forbids it?
    Politician: You bet.
    Advisor: Um… not a good idea if you want to win this election.
    Politician: Why, because it’s controversial? I know that, but hell man, we have to thi…
    Advisor: It’s suicidal. The press will incinerate you.
    Politician: I doubt it could be that ba…
    Advisor: They’ll depict you as a monster beating kids with a whip.
    Politician: They will?
    Advisor: Guaranteed. You’ll be shown with a cat-o'-nine-tails whipping five year olds…
    Politician: [gulp]
    Advisor: Parents will be demonstrating with placards showing you as Caligula.
    Politician: Okay, let’s drop it.
    Advisor: Good. We’ll try in 2037.
    Politician: Sigh. Twenty more years of murder brats coming off the assembly line…
    Advisor: Yup. Just remember to send your own kids to school with bullet proof vests.
    Politician: School? Forget school. My wife is home-schooling them.
    Advisor: Even better…
    Next, if our society actually created "millions" of "murder brats", then why are there only 8-10k gun homicides per year? Strike two.
    ‘Murder brat’ is a name I gave to people raised with no discipline. They are quite capable, in the right circumstances, of shooting an innocent person for some minor reason. Just as there are millions of non-drinking alcoholics, non-practicing gays, church going atheists, non-driving drivers, non-stealing thieves, so there are millions of murder brats that haven’t murdered. They are far more likely to murder an innocent person or persons than someone raised with discipline.

    Finally, your suggestion that reinstalling "discipline" and you won't have any more mass murder for the next 50 years is amazing....

    since there has never been a 50 year period of no mass murder any time in the history of our species... Strike three.

    You're out.
    Heh – it would be amazing if I’d said that, but in fact I said, “…won’t have any more murder brat mass murder, in say, 50 years.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Reinstall discipline now and you won’t have any more murder brat mass murder, in say, 50 years. At least your grandchildren can enjoy a world without it.
    If you reinstate discipline in families and schools now, the current crop will have run out steam by about 50 years. Get it?

    Oh look, a home run. I get to circle the bases and score a run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Already covered. From above:





    ‘Murder brat’ is a name I gave to people raised with no discipline. They are quite capable, in the right circumstances, of shooting an innocent person for some minor reason. Just as there are millions of non-drinking alcoholics, non-practicing gays, church going atheists, non-driving drivers, non-stealing thieves, so there are millions of murder brats that haven’t murdered. They are far more likely to murder an innocent person or persons than someone raised with discipline.



    Heh – it would be amazing if I’d said that, but in fact I said, “…won’t have any more murder brat mass murder, in say, 50 years.”



    If you reinstate discipline in families and schools now, the current crop will have run out steam by about 50 years. Get it?

    Oh look, a home run. I get to circle the bases and score a run.
    Well, I guess you can get home runs in your imagination all day, since everything you are saying here are also figments of your imagination with zero basis in reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    Well, I guess you can get home runs in your imagination all day, since everything you are saying here are also figments of your imagination with zero basis in reality.
    Translation: The pitcher's arms fell off, but he can still yell abuse and heckle.

    Here's three bucks and a Fake Newspaper. Go get some coffee, read the Fake News, and feel better about yourself.

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