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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Only rich people receive inheritances?
    Kinda' depend on the SIZE and nature of the inheritance. Duuuuuh....
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    The left is angry and bitter. The saddest part of this scenario is that they believe these lies, similar to how they also believe every Trump supporter is a Nazi. Angered and bitter people make a lot of noise and will go to any length to achieve their goals.
    Republicans don't even hold each other to what the party is "supposed to believe".

    There is not much the left can do to stop the party in charge from passing massive tax cuts, but please GOP stop the lying.

    Stop saying that the GOP is against adding to the deficit. ...just own up to the numbers. Say its ok to run in the red and there was never any push to close the deficit.

    It is an insult to intelligence to claim that giving tax breaks will bring in more money in taxes.



    Hey GOP that is like saying...Im gonna let this one bird in my hand go and he'll bring back more birds to me. No GOP...when you let that one bird go...it's gone.

    Stop the damn lying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    The ATM needs to go.
    On what basis?

    Either way, ending it will primarily benefit the rich. The original claim that this is not designed *at least* in part to benefit rich Republican donors is false.

    It does precisely that, and as currently envisioned, screws homeowners, student debtors, blue state residents and high-cost patients in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    On what basis?

    Either way, ending it will primarily benefit the rich. The original claim that this is not designed *at least* in part to benefit rich Republican donors is false.

    It does precisely that, and as currently envisioned, screws homeowners, student debtors, blue state residents and high-cost patients in the process.
    It does contain some good ideas --- I firmly believe that we need to simplify the tax code and encourage business activity by reducing or eliminating tax burdens for companies that are headquartered here and mostly employ U.S. residents. That's in our best interest. But it is compromised by donor service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    He never does.....
    He isn't paid to read the article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    so who would benefit from getting rid of the estate tax the most?
    This sentence shows that even the watchman knows that it would benefit more than just the rich. Notice he uses the word, MOST. Eliminating the estate tax simply benefits those who did not think to set up a trust to avoid the estate taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    This sentence shows that even the watchman knows that it would benefit more than just the rich. Notice he uses the word, MOST. Eliminating the estate tax simply benefits those who did not think to set up a trust to avoid the estate taxes.
    He uses "most" because "all" or "none" are inaccurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    This sentence shows that even the watchman knows that it would benefit more than just the rich. Notice he uses the word, MOST. Eliminating the estate tax simply benefits those who did not think to set up a trust to avoid the estate taxes.
    "even the Watchman"...knows? Who doesn't know that? Here's a question though since you mentioned it. How much money had to be involved in 2016 before the estate tax applied?
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    "even the Watchman"...knows? Who doesn't know that? Here's a question though since you mentioned it. How much money had to be involved in 2016 before the estate tax applied?
    Over $5 million, like 5 1/2.

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    Probably the worst ideas contained in this bill constitute a direct assault on higher education.

    The bill would simultaneously end the student loan interest deduction, causing young people across the board to hold hundreds of dollars more in tax debt per year, and it would consider academic tuition waivers as taxable income. A huge amount of people only go to graduate school because their research and teaching assistantships, among other programs, pay for their education in addition to providing a stipend for living expenses (which is already taxed).

    Some tuition waivers are worth $100,000 or more. Do the math, that's going to put professional degrees out of reach for a lot of people if taxes are owed on that kind of money every year on a new basis. It's just completely not sensible. Of all the things the federal government needs to be doing with post-secondary and professional education, making it more expensive is the last.

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