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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    On what basis?

    Either way, ending it will primarily benefit the rich. The original claim that this is not designed *at least* in part to benefit rich Republican donors is false.

    It does precisely that, and as currently envisioned, screws homeowners, student debtors, blue state residents and high-cost patients in the process.
    As it was intended to do.

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    This sentence shows that even the watchman knows that it would benefit more than just the rich. Notice he uses the word, MOST. Eliminating the estate tax simply benefits those who did not think to set up a trust to avoid the estate taxes.
    Does it also eliminate the probate process?
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    All of the Democrat can and most probably will vote against it. After all, it is a Republican bill and Democrats hate Republicans. But if this bill passes, how many taxpayers are going to see their child tax credit go up by $600 per child? That's not a deduction but a tax credit. For a single mother with four kids that's $2,400 that the Republicans put in her pocket, plus $300 more for her. Then you tell her to vote for the Democrats who voted against the bill. Do you think she cares that some corporation got a bigger piece of the pie? Hell no, she's going to be buying a new big screen television, an Xbox, and taking a trip. Thank you, Republicans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Does it also eliminate the probate process?
    What is this a quiz? Why are you focusing on this one part of the bill? Do you think the average voters know, or care anything about the estate tax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    All of the Democrat can and most probably will vote against it. After all, it is a Republican bill and Democrats hate Republicans. But if this bill passes, how many taxpayers are going to see their child tax credit go up by $600 per child? That's not a deduction but a tax credit. For a single mother with four kids that's $2,400 that the Republicans put in her pocket, plus $300 more for her. Then you tell her to vote for the Democrats who voted against the bill. Do you think she cares that some corporation got a bigger piece of the pie? Hell no, she's going to be buying a new big screen television, an Xbox, and taking a trip. Thank you, Republicans!
    All indications are that this can't pass the House as is, because of blue state Republicans. They barely got the budget through to make it even a remote possibility. Now the blue staters have proof positive that to walk the plank for Ryan on this will be political suicide, after Tuesday. Tom McArthur in particular knows that he cannot afford to do that again. Bob Goodlatte just straight up quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    Family owned businesses.
    Like Wal Mart family....how much did they inherit, 50 billion, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    All of the Democrat can and most probably will vote against it. After all, it is a Republican bill and Democrats hate Republicans. But if this bill passes, how many taxpayers are going to see their child tax credit go up by $600 per child? That's not a deduction but a tax credit. For a single mother with four kids that's $2,400 that the Republicans put in her pocket, plus $300 more for her. Then you tell her to vote for the Democrats who voted against the bill. Do you think she cares that some corporation got a bigger piece of the pie? Hell no, she's going to be buying a new big screen television, an Xbox, and taking a trip. Thank you, Republicans!
    Throw some crumbs to the peeps.

    Remember when Bush sent us our stimulus checks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    What is this a quiz? Why are you focusing on this one part of the bill? Do you think the average voters know, or care anything about the estate tax?
    If republicans thought the average person knew anything about estate taxes, they wouldn't try to eliminate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Throw some crumbs to the peeps.

    Remember when Bush sent us our stimulus checks?
    His premises that use only the extremes are certainly entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Like Wal Mart family....how much did they inherit, 50 billion, right?
    Them freedom loving founders didn't think inherited wealth was such a good idea.

    …Does allowing a small number of families to accumulate great wealth — increasing from generation to generation — harm democracy? The United States Constitution's ban on inherited titles met with unanimous approval because of the perceived threat posed by lords and earls to a democratic republic. Similarly, Americans have always understood that establishing a small group of families with seemingly unlimited wealth, social privilege, and political power undermines a fundamental American principle: that all citizens are legally and politically equal.

    Some founders wanted to eliminate inheritance entirely. In a letter to James Madison, Thomas Jefferson suggested that all property be redistributed every fifty years, because "the earth belongs in usufruct to the living." Madison gently pointed out the plan's impracticality. Benjamin Franklin unsuccessfully pushed for the first Pennsylvania constitution to declare concentrated wealth "a danger to the happiness of mankind."

    https://origins.osu.edu/history-news...rican-founders
    Trump, and his children, are an example of whats wrong with wealth that is inherited.
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