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    I can't decide if I want Alabama GOP to elect the scumbag or not.
    Have a little pride in yourself and then look back on all of the things that man has done and how he has ruled that has been hurtful to those involved, for example, simply because they were members of the LGBT Community. The time to end such prejudice and discrimination is NOW. You have a great opportunity to be one of the ones to help in that endeavor if you live in Alabama.

    Major news network were interviewing people from Alabama in yesterday's news report and asking them if they were still inclined to vote for Moore and many said NO and that it was doubtful. That's very telling and is speaking volumes about the situation since the story broke.

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    Kasich is a moron.

    Since when has a candidate for Senate ever been a "standard bearer" for any party. Idiot.

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    A guy who was punted from the Alabama supreme court not once but twice for violating the law and the constitution is going for a position where you need to swear an oath that you will protect and obey the constitution was ludicrous even before all this came out.

    And for you skeptics, here: http://winwithjmc.com/wp-content/upl...ion-Poll-2.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Roy Moore should 'step aside,' shouldn’t be 'standard bearer of the Republican Party': Kasich - ABC News
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    Governor Kasich as a prominent Republican and former presidential candidate does have a good point in looking out for the interests of his own political party. He has now spoken on how he feels about Moore. Other Republicans should listen to his wisdom and move to replace Moore with another more viable candidate with less baggage otherwise make use of a write-in candidate.

    Which begs the question......who in the Democratic Party called on Bill Clinton to "step aside,?" ever?
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    Which begs the question......who in the Democratic Party called on Bill Clinton to "step aside,?" ever?
    Please, don't ask him to step aside. We'd much rather stick Roy Moore to every Senate and House GOP candidate in 2018 and beyond. The problem for you guys is that Moore WINNING a Senate seat is worse than if he loses.

    Just imagine every Republican having to defend all the nasty, hateful, stupid things that man will say for as long as he's in national public life. It's a Democrat's dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    Kasich is a moron.

    Since when has a candidate for Senate ever been a "standard bearer" for any party. Idiot.
    All senators are standard bearers, particularly for their state parties. You can dismiss the words of a crazy congressman easily enough, but a senator? Not so much. And Moore is a publicity hound.
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    Let's also remember that Moore's central message is that he's a Bible-believing moral standard-bearer against the decline of morality in the US. Yet here he is admitting to acts that make people's skin crawl with moral outrage. He makes a mockery of Bible-based moral authority. Most Christians know a religious hypocrite when they see one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Please, don't ask him to step aside. We'd much rather stick Roy Moore to every Senate and House GOP candidate in 2018 and beyond. The problem for you guys is that Moore WINNING a Senate seat is worse than if he loses.

    Just imagine every Republican having to defend all the nasty, hateful, stupid things that man will say for as long as he's in national public life. It's a Democrat's dream.
    If Jones wins, that's the death knell on the Trump legislative agenda. They can't consistently get 50 out of 51 votes. 50 out of 52 is a struggle. Also, flipping three seats to Democratic control to capture the chamber probably isn't happening no mater what, but two seats --- Arizona and Nevada --- is conceivable. I *think* that no matter what, either Joe Manchin, Claire McCaskill or Heidi Heitkamp will lose, and possibly all three, putting that out of reach, but in a true wave election they will all win and open the door should Jones soften the ground.

    Moore will embarrass the GOP, but no more than Ted Cruz, and now Cruz is just an irrelevant, suitably chastened paperweight for the Texas safe seat. Moore will end up that way if he doesn't want to be eventually expelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    If Jones wins, that's the death knell on the Trump legislative agenda. They can't consistently get 50 out of 51 votes. 50 out of 52 is a struggle. Also, flipping three seats to Democratic control to capture the chamber probably isn't happening no mater what, but two seats --- Arizona and Nevada --- is conceivable. I *think* that no matter what, either Joe Manchin, Claire McCaskill or Heidi Heitkamp will lose, and possibly all three, putting that out of reach, but in a true wave election they will all win and open the door should Jones soften the ground.
    If Jones DOESN'T win, the GOP will have at least weekly bozo eruptions from Moore that will distract from anything else they want to say. I'll take that.

    Moore will embarrass the GOP, but no more than Ted Cruz, and now Cruz is just an irrelevant, suitably chastened paperweight for the Texas safe seat. Moore will end up that way if he doesn't want to be eventually expelled.
    Ted Cruz is a self-seeking asshole who has made a personal enemy of nearly every member of the Senate, but he's also a calculating politician who won't push the envelope too far just because it feels good. Moore...isn't.

    I agree that Moore's candidacy is bad news for the GOP no matter what, but elevating his profile has longer-term negative implications for any party stuck with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    If Jones DOESN'T win, the GOP will have at least weekly bozo eruptions from Moore that will distract from anything else they want to say. I'll take that.
    Sure. I'm just arguing that the Democrats are better off if Jones wins, not that there are not benefits from Moore being in the Senate as far as their messaging goes and their ability to interfere with political cohesion.

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