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Thread: Roy Moore should 'step aside,' shouldn’t be 'standard bearer of the Republican Party'

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I am both shocked and appalled that him being banned from a shopping mall back in the late 70s and 80s has been hidden this long. Whats wrong with people? There had to be at least hundreds of people that knew that back then and somehow all along his career nobody ever thought that was serious enough to prevent him from being a judge? Not one person came forward ever????? That had to have been the worlds best kept secret.
    It's an ongoing cultural phenomenon. Regardless of the political situation, powerful men will always have people around them willing to forget things they saw them do or otherwise have knowledge of them doing. True with Anthony Weiner, true with Weinstein, true with Moore. It takes a special character to say "this highly popular (at least locally) leader who has enough political power if he thinks he can get away with it to make my life VERY difficult is guilty of..."

    Until someone does it. Then the cork comes out, and people feel more comfortable talking about what they know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I don't think that governors can replace U.S. senators. The only way to remove a U.S. senator is for the two-thirds of the Senate to vote for removal.

    https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...on_Censure.htm
    From a cynical perspective, McConnell's best move is to say as little as possible about Moore in the hopes that there are not additional shoes waiting to drop, allowing the people of Alabama to say, without actively compromising their consciences, that *any* Republican is better than *any* Democrat.

    Should that happen, McConnell will be able to reassess the situation on Dec. 13 and either move to expel Moore --- allowing Gov. Ivey to immediately appoint a replacement who will vote the way the party needs him to --- or to keep Moore around to keep the Sean Hannitys of the world happy.

    For these reasons, we absolutely have to keep up the pressure, the system will not work on its own. McConnell will memory hole the entire controversy if it keeps his majority intact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    I don't think that governors can replace U.S. senators. The only way to remove a U.S. senator is for the two-thirds of the Senate to vote for removal.

    https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory...on_Censure.htm
    That is true, but if he resigns or is removed by the Senate, then the Governor would replace him.

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    I’m surprised he doesn’t step aside. Most politicians would walk away as soon as a scandal begins to explode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jets View Post
    I’m surprised he doesn’t step aside. Most politicians would walk away as soon as a scandal begins to explode.

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    Moore knows this is it, that if he does not get elected, and get expelled if it comes to that, he will convict himself and, at age 70, have nowhere else to go. From a cynical perspective, he is playing a perfectly self-advantageous game, he has everything to lose by quitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Moore knows this is it, that if he does not get elected, and get expelled if it comes to that, he will convict himself and, at age 70, have nowhere else to go. From a cynical perspective, he is playing a perfectly self-advantageous game, he has everything to lose by quitting.
    To kind of put things in perspective, @Jets, Donald Trump had options last year and I somewhat suspect he seriously considered them --- AND that these days, he rather regrets that he did not end up going that way.

    In the aftermath of Access Hollywood, he could've declared the system "rigged," quit the race, allowed Mike Pence to slot into leadership without too much aplomb. I mean, it would've been huge at the time but it also would've blown over. From there, he would've been free to return to his television or business careers as the guy who "would've won" if only he had been allowed to. It was so unfair, so very very unfair.

    Moore has no such options. This is literally it. Senate or bust. Bigly.
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    I get that but if someone is on the list how does anyone prevent them from going or even know they are inside? There is no one at the doors. One could easily go inside and walk around. It would take somebody to recognize them to enforce it.
    It's not like the place has to be hermetically sealed. They aren't protecting the president or a bank vault. But security could immediately go to that person and remove them rather than having to wait for them to commit some objectionable act.

    I'm pretty sure mall security could do some serious cock blocking without having to grab him up by the shoulders and forcibly remove him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I get that but if someone is on the list how does anyone prevent them from going or even know they are inside? There is no one at the doors. One could easily go inside and walk around. It would take somebody to recognize them to enforce it.
    With a lot of places, it's really just to back them up in the future. Most small businesses, malls included, can't dedicate a workforce to patrol and be on the lookout for a certain person and keep them off the grounds. But being put on a ban list allows the business to file charges of trespassing should that person come back and cause ANY problem in the future, whether it's shoplifting, loitering, destruction of property, or anything else. This assures them of action being taken by law enforcement next time.

    First time: This dude's hanging out here all day and creeping our customers out, we want him out of here.

    Police: Okay, buddy... move along.

    Second time: Hey, he came back, this has to stop, we even notified him last time that he is banned from our property.

    Police: Okay, buddy... you're coming downtown. Book him, Dan-o!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    It's an ongoing cultural phenomenon. Regardless of the political situation, powerful men will always have people around them willing to forget things they saw them do or otherwise have knowledge of them doing. True with Anthony Weiner, true with Weinstein, true with Moore. It takes a special character to say "this highly popular (at least locally) leader who has enough political power if he thinks he can get away with it to make my life VERY difficult is guilty of..."

    Until someone does it. Then the cork comes out, and people feel more comfortable talking about what they know.
    I am starting to wonder if we wont find out there was more to this as well. Corruption, bribery, money exchanged etc for silence. That sort of thing as well.

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