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    Two questions need to be asked of Republican leaders right now, and neither involves Gloria Allred or any other pundit:

    1) Do you urge Alabama voters to stay home or write in another Republican, such as Luther Strange?

    2) If Roy Moore wins, will you back a motion of expulsion, allowing Alabama's governor to appoint another Republican ahead of another special election in due time?
    After the tactics of this election, I support ANY measure that stops the filthy, low down, Democrats from getting the seat. I believe that it is time for the Republicans to get into the mud. Fuck the high road. It's time to just start smearing Democrat candidates with anything regardless of any factual background. We don't have to prove it, just throw out the allegations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    After the tactics of this election, I support ANY measure that stops the filthy, low down, Democrats from getting the seat. I believe that it is time for the Republicans to get into the mud. Fuck the high road. It's time to just start smearing Democrat candidates with anything regardless of any factual background. We don't have to prove it, just throw out the allegations.
    That's fine, anyone who wants to do that can be sued for libel.
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    That's fine, anyone who wants to do that can be sued for libel.
    Not before the elections... Trust me, newspapers know just how to say alleged and the accuser says, records show, etc.

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    YOU GUYS, I am SO MAD that my favorite Al Qaeda sympathizer --- guy who literally said God approved of the towers coming down --- got outed for the scumbag he is, I think it's time to start SMEARING EVERYBODY I disagree with. Raaaaage!

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    Not before the elections... Trust me, newspapers know just how to say alleged and the accuser says, records show, etc.
    You literally don't understand any of this, do you?

    Alleged, accusers said, this is not what hinges a libel case. No such words shall be taken seriously as a defense.

    If someone wants to sue a newspaper, they have to do three things:

    1) Demonstrate that the accusations are false
    2) Demonstrate that the newspaper knew or should have known them to be false
    3) Demonstrate that as a consequence of the falsehood, they suffered damages to their reputation which otherwise would never have been an issue
    3a) If the victim is a public figure with an established reputation, demonstrate that that the motive for publishing the falsehood was specifically to do malicious harm

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    You literally don't understand any of this, do you?

    Alleged, accusers said, this is not what hinges a libel case. No such words shall be taken seriously as a defense.

    If someone wants to sue a newspaper, they have to do three things:

    1) Demonstrate that the accusations are false
    2) Demonstrate that the newspaper knew or should have known them to be false
    3) Demonstrate that as a consequence of the falsehood, they suffered damages to their reputation which otherwise would never have been an issue
    3a) If the victim is a public figure with an established reputation, demonstrate that that the motive for publishing the falsehood was specifically to do malicious harm
    He wouldn't win a lawsuit against the newspaper. The newspaper did not report anything that was false. The newspaper reported that this woman said this, and that woman said that. Those are facts. Newspapers are very careful and report things using words like allegation. Each of these accusers, however, can get sued and I hope they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    He wouldn't win a lawsuit against the newspaper. The newspaper did not report anything that was false. The newspaper reported that this woman said this, and that woman said that. Those are facts. Newspapers are very careful and report things using words like allegation. Each of these accusers, however, can get sued and I hope they do.
    Not correct, not correct, not correct. If I interview someone I knew or should have known to be lying about someone, and publish that information, I am 100 percent liable for libel.

    Multiple precedents have established this. Libel suits often name the liar, the reporter who wrote the story, and the publication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Not correct, not correct, not correct. If I interview someone I knew or should have known to be lying, and publish that information, I am 100 percent liable for libel. Multiple precedents have established this.
    PROVE IT. Back up your statement. As long as The Washington Post says they are reporting what someone says and quotes them, they are covered. These women have made accusations. That is news. Newspapers simply report that this woman came forth and said this or that. The fact remains that Roy Moore hasn't had his day in court and you all want him lynched. Can't win the elections, let's try new tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    PROVE IT. Back up your statement. As long as The Washington Post says they are reporting what someone says and quotes them, they are covered. These women have made accusations. That is news. Newspapers simply report that this woman came forth and said this or that. The fact remains that Roy Moore hasn't had his day in court and you all want him lynched. Can't win the elections, let's try new tactics.
    Prove what, exactly? That this is established law, that journalists are responsible for what they write, regardless of who gave them that information?

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    Prove what, exactly? That this is established law, that journalists are responsible for what they write, regardless of who gave them that information?
    Really? Quote the law that says the newspaper is responsible for what someone they interview says... Post it, right here for all to see. You claim that it exists. Just like when our seven newspapers print an arrest, we start it off with: "According to the Sheriff's Office, John Smith (35), of Hometown, was arrested for burglary..." The newspaper didn't accuse him of burglary. They reported the arrest. In this case, read The Washington Post's articles. No where do they accuse Roy Moore of molesting children, fondling young girls, or anything like it. They are very, very careful, not to do that, for a reason. Roy Moore has said that he will sue The Washington Post over it. Winning is the hard part. You can sue God because the sun doesn't come out tomorrow.

    Even their headline was written to protect the newspaper, "Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter when she was 14, he was 32"

    Leigh Corfman says she was 14 years old when an older man approached her outside a courtroom in Etowah County, Ala. She was sitting on a wooden bench with her mother, they both recall, when the man introduced himself as Roy Moore.

    It was early 1979 and Moore — now the Republican nominee in Alabama for a U.S. Senate seat — was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney. He struck up a conversation, Corfman and her mother say, and offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a child custody hearing.

    “He said, ‘Oh, you don’t want her to go in there and hear all that. I’ll stay out here with her,’ ” says Corfman’s mother, Nancy Wells, 71. “I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.704ae3c25893

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