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    Quote Originally Posted by neomalthusian View Post
    histrionic melodrama from alternet (big surprise). This issue should be taken seriously, but nutcase leftist melodrama like this really helps no one.

    "one piece of advice some parenting experts are giving is: Stop telling adolescent girls that boys are mean to them “because they like you.” it’s an outdated response that normalizes male aggression against women at a dangerously young age."

    how is it "outdated?" what makes that possible explanation "outdated?" i don't see how that possibility has some expiration date. It's a real possibility. Perhaps the better message is not to be too quick to dismiss or normalize behavior that might be inappropriate or warranting intervention.

    "sexual harassment and assault are highly pervasive among children."

    inappropriate histrionic comment to lump harassment-and-assault together and then say it's pervasive among children.

    the aforementioned study also shows how normalized sexual assault is in the eyes of offenders: 44 percent of the students who admitted to sexually harassing others didn’t think of it as a big deal, and 39 percent said they were just “trying to be funny.”

    how does that show "how normalized sexual assault is?" honestly, what is wrong with this author/website?

    "clearly, sexual harassment and assault is a silent presence among today’s children" - um, no, clearly this writer is a fucking nutjob.

    "...and when parents tell their daughters to ignore or tolerate it, they prop up a devastating cycle of violence."

    nutjob. Seriously, tone down the feminist rhetoric. You can't take issues seriously when so much of the noise about it is sensationlized and polarized and histrionic like this.
    do you have daughters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    We also need to teach all our children that being in charge doesn't give anyone the right to abuse people in any fashion. That loyalty to your job shouldn't require sacrificing your principles. That money isn't more important than your self respect.
    Self respect and respect for others are two of the top things to teach children. It's also a lot tougher than teaching ABC's. One of the main problems is that the fastest and most concrete ways kids learn is by example. You can teach a child to respect their classmates all you want but if you come home from work each night bitching about your co-workers and talking about how you deserved the promotion more than that loser, you're undoing any good you thought you did when you told the little guy or girl to share their toys.

    Edit: That was the generic "you"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. Labrea,

    Something slightly off subject, but it is pretty funny that those who started the sexual harassment awareness social media movement named it #MeToo.
    Wow, that's some sense of humor, you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    do you have daughters?
    Are you a paid bot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Thats interesting and I see the same with female friends, daughters etc. They want a strong man and when they are young, a "Bad boy." So I suppose for guys thats pretty confusing.
    That's what I am thinking... they need to learn how to be assertive, without being overbearing. How to lead, without being condescending. How to be open minded, but also strong in conviction. There are a lot of yin and yang to it... and I think most learn by trial and error. So long as the "error" isn't to egregious, we need to help them learn. I think also, we need girls to be supporting girls too. Let them blossom as they follow their path, rather than push them into our expectation. Still, a nudge or two doesn't hurt if we think they are heading in a bad direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    I have no idea how you get that from my post, so for the hell of it I'll just say yeah. I am hoping my boys will grow up to be just like Trump. Sure.
    That wasn't directed at you. It's about the WHOLE entire sexist culture and WE are not honest about it which is WHY we have a pussy grabber in the WH!!!

    We will NOT have the discussion that MEN do NOT regard women as their equals and have plaid lip service to it for 40 YEARS. And grudgingly at that. We will not have the conversation that women are first and foremost objects of sexual desire and with far too many men, sexual aggression.

    That is DISHONEST as it sets up women to expect better.














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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Wow, that's some sense of humor, you have?
    Mr. picturetaker,

    I didn't make the joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Are you a paid bot?
    Yeah, that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    I have no idea how you get that from my post, so for the hell of it I'll just say yeah. I am hoping my boys will grow up to be just like Trump. Sure.
    Ironically, this post illustrates the strength of character and restraint I find so appealing in some men.

    Fact is, people, the words we say to our tweenies and teens are not likely to have much effect on how they relate to the opposite sex. But what we do is definitely highly persuasive.

    If you are modeling self-respect, mutual respect and assertiveness for your child, they are very likely to imitate you. And the reverse is also true.

    Parents who divorce during these years in their kids' lives need to be particularly careful.

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    Flirting is not always an easily recognized behavior. My wife tells me there were occasions in which someone was flirting with me - and I was honestly oblivious.

    That said, I was shopping at the local supermarket last night, and the high school-aged cashier was indisputably flirting with me. Obvious, even by my blind-as-a-bat standards. She kept asking me questions about where I worked (I told her I was a senior technical project manager working in Philadelphia, but didn't disclose the company name), and then she started asking me questions about project management styles, even pushing for examples. I was futzing with the plastic grocery bags when the credit card reader started to buzz, and she said "You can, um, take out your card now. Or don't. It's um... your choice ... if you don't want to." I recognized the uncertain speech patterns; they're the same ones I used in high school when talking to attractive female students.

    I was flattered, I suppose. But even if I didn't have 21 years of happy marriage behind me, there's no way I'd consider dating someone so young.
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