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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Why? they are totally inaccurate. if the person reading the test has a bias against you, they would interpret you are lying.


    Did Moore do it I don't know, I want to see evidence.


    I sided with Bill Clinton until he did one thing, Raise his hand in 2 courts, and said "I will tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth." then lie.
    No they aren't.

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    Originally Posted by DemoWhip That's exactly what I have been saying all along. Why not take a Polygraph Test and at least show that he was willing to do that in order to clear himself from any wrongdoing? ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Because there's no possible outcome that will help him.

    1) The results vindicate him. This leads to a discussion on the fallibility of polygraphs. Doesn't help his case.

    2) The results condemn him. This obviously hurts his case.

    3) The results are inconclusive. This suggests at least "partial guilt," hurting his case.

    There's no other possible outcome.
    Those are the excuses given by others to try to give him an out from having to submit to the Lie Detector Test. And of course the same thing would have to apply to the accusers whom some want to also take that test. You have to remember that Where There's A Will, There's A Way! And anyone innocent doesn't think in those three terms. They willfully go in and anxiously take the test to show everyone that they are innocent and emerge with an attitude that they were not at all scared or intimidated by the process and that if anyone wants to criticize them for taking the test, or criticize the test itself, then that's their problem. But at least they did what they thought was the right thing to do and what was in their heart to do in order to clear their name.

    However, absent the Polygraph Test if this gets to a court of law or to a Senatorial Investigation as the lady's attorney, Gloria Allred, is demanding then he will have to be deposed and will have to swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth under OATH. Therefore, either way he will have to submit to some form of legal test as many are wanting for him to do.

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    I lost the quote, but I didn't realize it was at the judges discretion whether or not to accept a lie detector.

    In a source provided, they offered a VERY tiny pool for comparison. You're not going to look at a doctor that's tested a handful of patients and the pool would still be far to small and could still be a series of statistical anomalies... Then, what is the basis where you draw the line?

    I mean, short of 2-3 people blindly analyzing the results and coming to a unanimous conclusion, there are people that could have reactions to the questions that get interpreted as lies.

    I know they try to maintain a baseline of measurements before asking the questions, people can train themselves to pass them.

    Also there are sociopaths who will simply have no emotional reaction to their lies...

    Let's say that these people accurately detect lies to an 80% after 1000 runs (90% if you remove "I don't know"), that's still roughly 100 people that either win or lost out...

    Regardless, should not have come across so harsh about it because if he's guilty and it can be proven then string him up. I just misread the situation that the attempt is to hang him on the basis of a polygraph alone... I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty, just that it's also possible that a person actually believes their own lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    When did SLick offer to take a lie detector test?


    Did I miss Hillary offering to take a lie detector test over her home brew email server with SAP info on it?

    Did Lynch offer to take a lie detector test about her meeting with Slick on that tarmac?

    I think the thread is about Moore. Why do you suppose he doesn't ask for a lie detector test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Lie detector tests prove nothing regardless of what Moore has to say.

    So his comments really have nothing to do my argument.
    why would he suggest his accusers take one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Why? they are totally inaccurate. if the person reading the test has a bias against you, they would interpret you are lying.


    Did Moore do it I don't know, I want to see evidence.


    I sided with Bill Clinton until he did one thing, Raise his hand in 2 courts, and said "I will tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth." then lie.
    The women speaking out is evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Should the accusers take a polygraph test?
    Sure, why not.

    If they passed you would say it's just bullshit, if they failed you would say, see, they are lying. Which is why it makes little sense in taking one.
    Last edited by Pragmatist; 15th November 2017 at 04:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Point set match.

    Only problem if the test reader is biased against more they will side she is telling the truth.

    If he is biased toward Moore he will say she is lying.
    No there are plenty of professionals that have the integrity to do what they are trained to do. If the evidence is inconclusive they would say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Do you remember everyone that you ever met, four decades ago?
    Maybe not everyone I ever met but if I signed their yearbook I damn sure would remember them. I may not even remember that I signed their yearbook but if I did it's fucking impossible that I would not remember the person. That would be true of anyone but a fucking liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    If I were accused of sexual assaulting a 14 year old girl...I would beg to take a lie detector test.

    I don't see why Roy has not offered to take one.
    Why has he not pink hairs? If he had pink hairs he would be innocent.

    By the way: Who is Roy Moore? ... Got it: 1979 ... A long time. Will be difficult to find out what's right or wrong after 38 years. ...

    Last edited by zaangalewa; 15th November 2017 at 04:56 AM.

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