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    Russia retaliating on foreign media

    After the Kremlin-run news channel RT capitulated to a U.S. deadline to register as a foreign agent, Russian lawmakers have drafted a bill targeting foreign news outlets in retaliation.

    RT’s chief editor Margarita Simonyan and the U.S. Department of Justice said the broadcaster's American branch had met a Monday deadline to register as a foreign agent. Russian officials last week vowed a speedy response to what Moscow says is a crackdown on Russian media.

    The State Duma on Tuesday drafted amendments to two existing laws that would label non-Russian news media “foreign agents."

    The bill amends Russia’s law on mass media and the law on “undesirable organizations,” deputy Speaker Pyotr Tolstoy said.

    Tolstoy said the amendment will be submitted after the Duma’s four party leaders meet with Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin.



    Russia’s Justice Ministry will “logically” be tasked with labeling the outlets as “foreign agents,” the State Duma deputy speaker said.

    The law requires “foreign agent” organizations to publicly disclose their status, report their activities and be subjected to financial inspections in Russia.

    The label would apply if the outlet is either registered abroad, receives foreign funding or gets paid by a Russian company that is itself financed from abroad, the State Duma announced on Twitter.

    Tolstoy said that news organizations would be banned from working in Russia if they fail to abide by the new law, according to the opposition-leaning news channel Dozhd TV’s report.

    “The State Duma has decided to respond quickly to an unfriendly step against Russian journalists in the U.S.,” the Duma’s statement cited him as saying. “I think that in this case, we have to react as pointedly as possible.”
    Russian Lawmakers Draft Bill Targeting Foreign Media

    Tolstoy


    How sadly ironic... His great-great-grandfather, the iconic writer Lev (or "Leo", as Anglophones insist to bastardize his name for some reason lol) Tolstoy actually wrote an article once, railing against the overbearing political influence of the Orthodox Church in his, Imperial era; and now his great-great-grandson bows subserviently to same Church as it reestablishes same influence

    to the point that he said, in an interview, that "we should try to listen to and understand the concerns of" the Orthodox radicals engaging in arson and violence against a fucking movie: Angry Christians firebomb movie studio

    And also attacked people in St. Petersburg who protested against the handover of the St. Isaac Cathedral to the Church by the government, with antisemitic slurs, insinuating that most of them are of Jewish background and are opposed to a strong, Christian Slavic Russia...

    Among other things.

    Not to mention loyally supporting the modern dictator "Tsar", while his ancestor was known as a dissident against the autocratic rule of the original Tsars...

    Pathetic, really.

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    Who gives a shit? (Not about your thread, them)

    Not the first time the Russians have been like --- Oh, we'll punish you in the same way, with our VAST influence against your interests!

    It is so very vast, we assure you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Who gives a shit? (Not about your thread, them)

    Not the first time the Russians have been like --- Oh, we'll punish you in the same way, with our VAST influence against your interests!

    It is so very vast, we assure you!
    It would be unfortunate, if they cut off access for foreign media... It's not just US media who would be affected either: CNN, Deutsche Welle could be hit by Russia's 'foreign agents' media law: RIA | Reuters

    It would be bad for Russian citizens, if foreign media us restricted more and more. They would lose a crucial source of impartial information. Most domestic media, at this point, just run Kremlin propaganda...

    I look, for example, at Crimea.

    I only know of ONE "foreign" reporter currently allowed to work there, and that is Graham Phillips


    He is British, but strongly pro-Russia, not sure if for money or ideology or a bit of both.

    He spent at least pretty much a couple years of his life in the Donbass, embedded with the pro-Russian rebel groups there

    He ran English and Russian (which he speaks fairly fluently, albeit with a funny accent lol) propaganda for them, from the front lines. His photo and video reports would be used by the separatists' own media, as well as domestic Russian propaganda sources like LifeNews, and also abroad, his English work, by RT, Sputnik, etc. For a long time, Phillips essentially WAS the rebels' whole outreach to the English-speaking world...

    Igor Plotnitsky, the head of the separatist Lugansk People's Republic, handing him an award


    He also found love over there, funnily enough, with Yulia, a local girl from Lugansk

    It was recently announced in Russian media that he will be returning to the Lugansk Republic early next year to marry her...

    Anyway, he'd spent plenty of time in Crimea also, even met Natalia Poklonskaya there, when she was still the regional Head Prosecutor, before she left for Moscow to become a Duma member


    In 2015, he sat down with the commander of Crimea's Popular Self-Defense Forces

    These were militias formed during Crimea's secession from Ukraine, which assisted Russian troops when they came in to oversee Crimea's annexation, and, since then, have not disbanded, but assumed a law enforcement role, helping the new Russian police keep order on the streets of Crimea.

    Talking to kids at a school in Alushta on September 4th (1st day of classes, when kids over there, in ex-USSR, traditionally present flowers to their teachers)


    Visiting recently the Kerch Bridge construction site


    But mostly, he just walks around in various towns, interviewing supposedly random folks, all of whom invariably talk about how horrible life was under Ukraine, and how amazing it is now, in Russia hehe

    He's also been arrested in Latvia

    He was among a group of pro-Russian activists that disrupted some memorial march by Waffen SS veterans there.

    He also intruded into a private museum of Stepan Bandera run by some Ukrainian nationalist immigrants in Britain and scuffled with them as they escorted him out


    Among other things. I think he even got himself kicked out of the British parliament by police, after asking wrong questions about Ukraine lol

    Phillips probably can't even return home to the UK anymore. They'd likely arrest him for his activities in Donbass. But he doesn't need to. He has it great in Russia, he is a fucking celebrity over there now... Hr can barely even be considered "foreign" anymore. While not, yet, a Russian citizen on paper, plenty of patriots over there now see him as, at least, a kind of "honorary" Russian, even refer to him as "Igor Filipov", a Russian translation of his actual name haha

    And that's great. But, looking at aforementioned Crimea, and trying to find real information and real news, all I get is, on one side, Ukrainian propaganda how everything Russia does there is illegal and how they are fucking up the Peninsula; and on the other - Russian propaganda, including Phillips, about how it was the Ukrainians who had fucked up Crimea before, and they are now cleaning up the mess the former left behind and rebuilding Crimea to its former glory lol

    Actual, truthful, impartial information from local sources is impossible to obtain, unfortunately...

    Would suck if all of Russia becomes like this...
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    Russian lawmakers have unanimously passed a bill targeting foreign news outlets in retaliation to the Kremlin-run news channel RT’s registration as a "foreign agent" in the United States.

    RT capitulated to a second U.S. deadline on Monday to comply with an anti-Nazi propaganda law that requires the broadcaster to disclose its financing and label itself as a foreign agent. Moscow vowed to act swiftly in response to what it claims is a clampdown on Russian media in the U.S.

    Russian lawmakers on Wednesday amended two laws that could require foreign news outlets to disclose their status, report their activities and be subjected to financial inspections.

    The label would apply if the outlet is either registered abroad, receives foreign funding or gets paid by a Russian company that is itself financed from abroad, the State Duma announced on Tuesday.

    Non-compliant foreign organizations could be blocked without a court order in Russia.

    On Wednesday, the bill passed its third hearing with a unanimous vote of 414-0.

    The bill passed its second reading — also unanimously — earlier in the day. It is expected to pass in the Federation Council, Russia’s upper chamber of parliament, then ratified by President Vladimir Putin before coming into effect.

    Russian media previously reported that CNN, VOA and Radio Liberty, as well as Germany’s public broadcaster Deutsche Welle, could be targeted.

    Russia’s human rights ombudsman criticized the bill for being hastily drafted, the RBC business portal reported Wednesday.
    Russia's Bill Retaliating Against Foreign Media Passes Unanimously

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    Russian lawmakers have unanimously passed
    lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    lol
    There have actually been pics leaked on several occasions, how the voting works over there.

    The more important members often don't even bother showing up, unless it is some historic vote, like the one to bring Crimea into the Federation, everyone appeared for that one.

    But in most votes, you will see the lesser, more junior members rushing around all the vacant rows, pressing all the buttons for their absent superiors



    Just shows how much of an irrelevant rubber stamp the Duma truly is...

    Anyway:

    After the Kremlin-backed RT news outlet begrudgingly registered as a foreign agent on Monday, Russia promised to retaliate. Earlier on Wednesday, its lawmakers did just that.

    New legislation, which will allow authorities to brand any international media organization a “foreign agent,” passed swiftly through three readings in the State Duma today, ending in a 414-0 vote. President Vladimir Putin is expected to sign the amendments into law by the end of the month.

    State Duma vice speaker Pyotr Tolstoy told The Moscow Times that the United States forced Russia’s hand. “We are learning from our American colleagues, and we are trying to keep up,” he said.

    Tolstoy said that lawmakers will also consider whether U.S. advertising is detrimental to Russian voters, referring to Twitter’s ban on advertising from RT and Sputnik last month.

    “I don’t know what people expect from us,” he added. “But Russia is not a country that will go without a response.”

    U.S. officials say that RT’s registration under the obscure 1938 Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) will not limit the network's ability to work in the country, but will only require the outlet to disclose its mission and funding.

    The Russian response, however, takes much broader measures.

    While the State Duma’s legislation does not include a list of media organizations to be targeted, Russian media has previously reported that Voice of America and Radio Free Europe — which receive government funding — the privately-owned CNN and Germany’s public broadcaster Deutsche Welle could be affected. On Wednesday, lawmakers said that Russia’s Justice Ministry would select the outlets.

    Sergei Neverov, a lawmaker representing the United Russia party, assured reporters on Wednesday that the new legislation will not affect Russian media outlets that receive a significant chunk of foreign funding.

    "This draft law does not regulate the Russian media in any way,” he said. “It is a question of foreign media and their activities on the territory of the Russian Federation."

    The legislation states that outlets designated “foreign agents” would have to follow the same requirements applied to foreign-funded NGOs.

    The organizations that land in the Justice Ministry’s registry under the 2012 law are subject to additional checks and are required to identify all publications as having been produced by a “foreign agent,” a label with Soviet-era connotations of espionage. They also have to submit regular reports on their funding, objectives and expenses.

    Speaking on Rossia-1 on Wednesday, State Duma deputy Yevgeny Revenko said that staff of foreign media who refuse to register as foreign agents under the new legislation could face up to two years in prison.

    “I believe that the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation will quickly take advantage of these opportunities,” Revenko added.

    Nikolai Svanidze, the head of the Human Rights Council’s commission on civil liberties, told The Moscow Times Wednesday that the move “follows the format of the Cold War.” But, he said, while the Russian legislation is a “formal mirror response” to the U.S., it takes far broader measures, and is “absolutely unjust.”

    “RT is a government outlet, but CNN is not,” he said. “And this new legislation does not only apply to American channels, but any outlet with foreign funding.”

    Svanidze blamed the United States for the new legislation, calling its move to force RT to register “an absolutely absurd decision.” Although he conceded that Russia was “already heading in this direction,” he said that the “RT decision sped it up.”

    Russia’s human rights ombudsman Mikhail Fedotov told The Moscow Times that the law was written poorly. “In practice, the law won’t even work," he said, because the Duma deputies confused the legal definition of media.

    “The president should send the law back to the Duma,” Fedotov added. “You can’t write laws this way. It degrades our legal system.”
    Russia’s New Law Against Foreign Media ‘Won’t Even Work’

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