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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Already did that, but I'll summarize:

    Start a national gun registry that applies to all newly-manufactured firearms, and require all newly-manufactured firearms to have serial numbers on all feasible parts. Require all gun sales to go through licensed sellers and intermediaries so that the ownership transfer is logged. Every time guns are retrieved from a crime scene, trace it to the last sale, and figure out how the weapon landed in the hands of criminals. Use this information to continuously shore up weak spots in the law.

    Since the law won't apply to guns already in circulation, it will take a while for the law to have a measurable effect. But it's fairly safe to say that the majority of functional guns in the U.S. today are less than 25 years old. Within a few decades, nearly all guns will be registered, and finding (and closing) the venues that allow criminals to obtain weapons will be significantly easier.
    Your plan is to hope criminals follow gun laws, and maybe in 25 years we might see a change.

    Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    A list you won't hear about in the lamestream media.



    Good guys with guns saving lives | Fox News
    Well, I think the good guy solution is less effective than I can accept. Not that I'm not grateful to any everyday hero, but it doesn't obviate the blazingly clear need for greater gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    Your plan is to hope criminals follow gun laws, and maybe in 25 years we might see a change.

    Got it.
    I think it is no longer possible to reasonably argue that no government act can reduce gun violence. That no solution exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I think it is no longer possible to reasonably argue that no government act can reduce gun violence. That no solution exists.
    All the anti-regulation blather falls apart with one word: 'Australia'.

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    Most mass murderers suicide at the end of their killing spree. This does not mean that promoting suicide is a reasonable tactic for combating gun violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I think it is no longer possible to reasonably argue that no government act can reduce gun violence. That no solution exists.
    Give us a govt solution then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Most mass murderers suicide at the end of their killing spree. This does not mean that promoting suicide is a reasonable tactic for combating gun violence.
    This isn't about only mass murders. It is about everyday crimes getting stopped by good guys with guns.

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    Those hypothetical "Good" guys who love guns, need to be telling us all how we can ensure that only the "good" guys get the guns, and how we stop the "bad" guys having them. Legally, in many cases. So far we have the "good" guys fighting to ensure that everyone including the "bad" guys keep them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    Give us a govt solution then.

    A constitutional one? Not sure.

    Maybe ban/confiscate any semi auto weapon that can be converted to full auto by the consumer? Repeal the federal firearms license program? National gun registry database?

    Safe storage laws?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    Give us a govt solution then.

    You act like reducing gun violence is a total mystery and no other country on the planet has ever found any means whatsoever of reducing it.....kind of like the nutter concept of UHC, it just is beyond reason how to do it....
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