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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Those hypothetical "Good" guys who love guns, need to be telling us all how we can ensure that only the "good" guys get the guns, and how we stop the "bad" guys having them. Legally, in many cases. So far we have the "good" guys fighting to ensure that everyone including the "bad" guys keep them.
    Well, and the good guys have committed a massive share of the gun violence. Legally purchased guns are, by a wide margin, the most likely to be involved in mass murders, accidental deaths and suicides, as well as most street crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    You act like reducing gun violence is a total mystery and no other country on the planet has ever found any means whatsoever of reducing it.....kind of like the nutter concept of UHC, it just is beyond reason how to do it....
    What is your solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    This isn't about only mass murders. It is about everyday crimes getting stopped by good guys with guns.
    Independently recorded incidents of such are vanishingly rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    What is your solution?
    You are so cute when you play at being coy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    What is your solution?
    I like Australia's, but there are others that have worked as well. Are these beyond your ability to understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Independently recorded incidents of such are vanishingly rare.
    I'd rather the cops have the guns and do the policing. Vigilante law enforcement sounds so...

    ...third world to me, for some reason. Sort of banana republic-y.
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    Dims will not like these facts. I predict the sources will be attacked.

    Fact:*Every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times – more than 6,500 people a day, or once every 13 seconds. 1* Of these instances, 15.7% of the people using firearms defensively stated that they “almost certainly” saved their lives by doing so.
    Fact: Even the government’s estimate, which has a major methodology problem, 2 estimates people defend themselves*235,700 times each year with guns. 3
    Fact:*The number of times per year an American uses a firearm to deter a home invasion alone is 498,000. 4
    Fact: In 83.5% (2,087,500) of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first, proving that guns are very well suited for self-defense.
    Fact: The rate of defensive gun use (DGU) is six times that of criminal gun use. 5
    Fact:* Of the 2,500,000 times citizens use guns to defend themselves, 92% merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. 6
    Fact:* In most of the remaining*8% of defensive gun uses, a citizen never wounds his or her attacker (they fire warning shots), and in less than one in a thousand instances is the attacker killed. 7
    Fact: In one local review of firearm homicide, more than 12% were civilian legal defensive homicides. 8
    Fact: For every accidental death (802), suicide (16,869) or homicide (11,348) 9*with a firearm (29,019), 13 lives (390,000) 10*are preserved through defensive use.
    Fact:*When using guns in self-defense, 91.1% of the time, not a single shot is fired. 11
    Fact: After the implementation of Canada’s 1977 gun controls prohibiting handgun possession for protection, the “breaking and entering” crime rate rose 25%, surpassing the American rate. 12
    Gun Facts | Gun Control, Guns and Crime Prevention

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    I like Australia's, but there are others that have worked as well. Are these beyond your ability to understand?
    An unconstitutional gun grab.

    Just what I expected from you.

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    In right wing blog-ese, 10 over 3 years equals countless.
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