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    Senate tax bill repeals Obamacare mandate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    I am on board with this.
    While continuing to support the pre-existing condition ban?

    Why?

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    They're having to set aside their rule on not raising taxes because....they're raising taxes!
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    This is awesome: passing the R tax cut would REQUIRE an immediate $25 billion cut in Medicare, plus $111 billion in other cuts (which isn't legally possible). I.e., the whole exercise is illegal under Congress' own rules

    https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/115...oyerletter.pdf

    Oh and no hearings either. Premiums would rise as well.

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    A poison pill perhaps?

    Perhaps the GOP realizes that this tax cut is indeed perceived as a gift to corporations and a buggering to the middle class. Put in something else unpopular, at the behest of the president and let him suffer the failure of it.

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    This is an act of desperation to force any Republican defectors from the tax bill to "vote for Obamacare."

    It's the clearest sign they do not have the votes, and absent a sea change, can't obtain them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    A poison pill perhaps?

    Perhaps the GOP realizes that this tax cut is indeed perceived as a gift to corporations and a buggering to the middle class. Put in something else unpopular, at the behest of the president and let him suffer the failure of it.
    The injection of health policy into the tax debate introduces a volatile variable into what was already a challenging political enterprise for Republicans. And itís unclear whether it will help or hurt the billís chances.

    By freeing up hundreds of billions of dollars, Senate leaders have more flexibility as they attempt to assuage the concerns of anxious members from across their caucus.

    Senate GOP leadership has come under pressure to boost the tax planís benefits for the middle class as nonpartisan projections have shown that the wealthy and big corporations would benefit most. At the same time, leaders are struggling to ensure that the legislation does not add too much to the budget deficit in the long run, threatening the billís viability under the procedures they intend to use to pass it.

    Eliminating the individual mandate and having far fewer people signed up for insurance saves money because many of those people receive federal subsidies to buy coverage. The CBO has also projected that repealing the individual mandate would drive up insurance premiums for many Americans by roughly 10 percent.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...=.9b9ce965d693

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    This is an act of desperation to force any Republican defectors from the tax bill to "vote for Obamacare."

    It's the clearest sign they do not have the votes, and absent a sea change, can't obtain them.
    Indeed, without Former,.Rand Paul, McCain, and Flake, why would the GOP think this would sweeten it for others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Indeed, without Former,.Rand Paul, McCain, and Flake, why would the GOP think this would sweeten it for others?
    Rand supports cutting the mandate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Rand supports cutting the mandate.
    Right but he's said he won't vote for the current slate of deduction repeals because that would hike taxes on the middle class in many communities. Essentially this new proposal may as well be specifically targeting him ó he's already taken a tough stand on health care, if he straight up votes to keep the individual mandate and kill tax reform then he faces a primary challenge.

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