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    Second Woman Accuses Franken of Stalking and Harassment

    Morgan, a former host on conservative talk station KSFO, made the allegations on*Media Equalizer, a blog she co-founded. She said the harassment consisted of Franken aggressively trying to continue the argument off air and repeatedly calling her personal phone number to “badger” her.
    Morgan, also a former reporter and anchor for*KGO-TV, KGO, and most recently for KSRO talk radio in Sonoma County, said her “disturbing” encounter with Franken was sparked by a*seemingly mundane discussion on Maher’s ABC show on August 19, 2000.

    The topic was OMB budget numbers. Morgan said she was joined on the panel by Franken, actor William Baldwin, and then-Colorado Lt. Governor Joe Rogers.

    “I was invited and unaware of who his guests were going to be that night. I’ve since learned that though few know this, Al Franken was actually a writer for the show,” Morgan said.

    She said that she made a statement about the budget numbers, and Franken challenged her.

    “I challenged him back,” she said. “It was about spending priorities, actually just a mundane discussion. But he obsessed over it.”

    Once the show wrapped, Morgan said Franken wouldn’t leave her alone and insisted on continuing the argument.

    “He approached me backstage, angrily called me out on those numbers and insisted he would prove he was right,” she said. “He wouldn’t leave me alone, he kept following me. As a woman, his presence and proximity to me felt very threatening and intimidating.”

    She said he later approached the show’s producer to get her phone number, “which was a clear violation of network protocol.” But Franken got the phone number and “shocked” her by calling her home at least three times.

    “I became fearful and called (the producer) to complain and asked her to tell him to back off,” said Morgan, who was afraid he might begin stalking her home in Northern California.

    “By the third phone call I was outraged and terrified, as he is really disturbed,” Morgan said.

    She said he finally left her alone after she threatened to call the police and report him.
    Bay Area radio host Melanie Morgan: Al Franken harassed me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post


    How is this sexual harassment or assault? They had a disagreement on budget numbers and it seems he wanted to discuss it with her further. Did he make sexual advances, what?

    He may have been forceful in trying to get answers from her, but call her three times at her home to get her to talk to him about the budget isn't the same as sexual harassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    How is this sexual harassment or assault? They had a disagreement on budget numbers and it seems he wanted to discuss it with her further. Did he make sexual advances, what?
    I didn't say sexual harassment. But he tried to intimidate her, stalked her and harassed her at her home.

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    Not the same thing at all.

    And not stalking.

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    "It's never just one."

    ^^ Conflation of aggressive discussion with sexual harassment.

    A great way to get people to rally around Franken.

    Gives his defenders an excuse to say that you're just throwing things at the wall to see if anything sticks. An opportunity to remove the focus from the resignation-worthy offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Not the same thing at all.

    And not stalking.
    Getting someone phone number without their knowledge and then harassing them in their home isn't stalking?
    One of the overlooked aspects of the Tweeden story was that after she rejected his advanced, Franken spent the rest of the tour insulting her. And then he tried to humiliate her with the groping picture.
    This guy has a real problem with women who dare to disagree with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Not the same thing at all.

    And not stalking.
    It is stalking, and it is harassment. Oh, and you now have that "walked up to" that you're always accusing Trump of. In this case the stalker Franken did walk up to the woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    I didn't say sexual harassment. But he tried to intimidate her, stalked her and harassed her at her home.
    Yeah,I don't think we are going to start going after men that want to continue an argument or debate. These two meet on a talk show. He just wanted to keep talking about what they were debating on the show. He got her number from the producer and called her three times. Unless he made some sort of threats or called her again after being told not to call again, this is a not a case of stalking or harassing. This is a bust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Yeah,I don't think we are going to start going after men that want to continue an argument or debate. These two meet on a talk show. He just wanted to keep talking about what they were debating on the show. He got her number from the producer and called her three times. Unless he made some sort of threats or called her again after being told not to call again, this is a not a case of stalking or harassing. This is a bust.
    And you don't find any of that creepy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Getting someone phone number without their knowledge and then harassing them in their home isn't stalking?
    One of the overlooked aspects of the Tweeden story was that after she rejected his advanced, Franken spent the rest of the tour insulting her. And then he tried to humiliate her with the groping picture.
    This guy has a real problem with women who dare to disagree with him.

    No, getting someone's phone number and calling them three times is not stalking.

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