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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Gocha, you are only complaining about the federal tax bill because it is your ox being gored.
    That's terrible (and deliberate) misreading of my words. I'm much more concerned about the very wealthy who pay most of CA's taxes.
    But again, Sacramento is goring you just as bad. Why are you not complaining about that?
    I don't have any problem paying my taxes when the services I and my fellow citizens are getting make those taxes worth it. California spends too much on prisons and not enough on schools, but I'm quite happy with the state's choices. Sacramento doesn't gore me at all. Quite the opposite.

    Do you really have to deliberately misinterpret what people say just to keep up your end of the conversation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. god,

    I have no idea what you are talking about. The subject is Californians whining about the possibility of increased federal taxes, at the same time ignoring their high state taxes being frittered away.
    If I want to whine about something, it will be the fact that states like California, New York, and New Jersey get less back in services from federal taxes than they pay in, while states like Arkansas and Alabama get more. This element of tax reform will exacerbate that problem. It's hilarious to hear CA GOP members of congress say that somehow our greater state services are a sign of mismanagement even as they want their own constituents to pay more so beggarly red states can get more at their expense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    That's not what I see.

    https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...states-compare

    MD, FL, then CA are top three. Not that I know much about school rankings... just a quickie google search. This one has OK 40/50.
    Mr. Chief,

    We're not saying that California doesn't pour money into rich school districts while letting the rest suffer. We are just saying the overall ranking is dismal:

    Education: California ranks 10th to last

    California ranked 42nd nationally in education | ABC10.com

    California's school system ranked 9th worst in the nation - SFGate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Chief,

    We're not saying that California doesn't pour money into rich school districts while letting the rest suffer. We are just saying the overall ranking is dismal:

    Education: California ranks 10th to last

    California ranked 42nd nationally in education | ABC10.com

    California's school system ranked 9th worst in the nation - SFGate
    California doesn't spend that much on its schools. It's middle of the pack, at best. But we do have high levels of inequality and very high levels of English Language Learners (more than half our students come from homes speaking primarily a language other than English). Do any analysis of API scores and you'll see a high correlation between poverty and ELLs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    If I want to whine about something, it will be the fact that states like California, New York, and New Jersey get less back in services from federal taxes than they pay in, while states like Arkansas and Alabama get more. This element of tax reform will exacerbate that problem. It's hilarious to hear CA GOP members of congress say that somehow our greater state services are a sign of mismanagement even as they want their own constituents to pay more so beggarly red states can get more at their expense.
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Interesting. You want to defund National Forests, national monuments, BLM lands, shut down most of the national Energy labs, shut down most of the US Military Bases, stop dredging the Mississippi River and shut down navigation for the entire Missouri, Ohio, and Mississippi River watersheds, close down the national highway system, close 95% of the satellite tracking facilities, close the TVA, and close down the national FAA grid.

    Please explain why you think that is a good idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    California doesn't spend that much on its schools. It's middle of the pack, at best. But we do have high levels of inequality and very high levels of English Language Learners (more than half our students come from homes speaking primarily a language other than English). Do any analysis of API scores and you'll see a high correlation between poverty and ELLs.
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Hmmm, California has the highest taxes in the nation, spends 40% of those taxes on education, and the education system is still crap?

    Tell me again why you aren't complaining about your high taxes and where they are going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Interesting. You want to defund National Forests, national monuments, BLM lands, shut down most of the national Energy labs, shut down most of the US Military Bases, stop dredging the Mississippi River and shut down navigation for the entire Missouri, Ohio, and Mississippi River watersheds, close down the national highway system, close 95% of the satellite tracking facilities, close the TVA, and close down the national FAA grid.

    Please explain why you think that is a good idea?
    I have no idea what you're talking about. This must make sense in your tortured imagination, but the rest of us don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Chief,

    We're not saying that California doesn't pour money into rich school districts while letting the rest suffer. We are just saying the overall ranking is dismal:

    Education: California ranks 10th to last

    California ranked 42nd nationally in education | ABC10.com

    California's school system ranked 9th worst in the nation - SFGate
    My survey shows California as #3 and is newer than all of your surveys, especially your last one that's 2 years old. Still, we don't know exactly what the metrics are for all the surveys. This exchange started because it was claimed that OK lacks a budget to adequately fund its schools. That seems to bear out, regardless of what's going on in California.

    I'll give OK this... from your links, the OK school system is in the top 5 for child safety. That's a good thing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Hmmm, California has the highest taxes in the nation, spends 40% of those taxes on education, and the education system is still crap?
    Once again, I didn't say that. You keep reading things I don't write. It's not worth talking to you.

    Tell me again why you aren't complaining about your high taxes and where they are going?
    I am complaining about where they are going. You didn't read that in my previous posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    I have no idea what you're talking about. This must make sense in your tortured imagination, but the rest of us don't see it.
    Mr. Rasselas,

    You complained about the cost to maintain the Federal infrastructure. I was just wondering why you think the Federal infrastructure doesn't need to be maintained.

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