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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. god,

    I have no idea what you are talking about. The subject is Californians whining about the possibility of increased federal taxes, at the same time ignoring their high state taxes being frittered away.
    Boy, sometimes I wonder how any of you function at work unless someone tells you a story with pictures. Californians are worried about individual tax increases due to the loss of state and local tax deductions as well as other items no longer being deductible. I am a good example of a typical Californian household, healthy six figure combined income, big mortgage, kids in college. Last year alone I deducted almost 40k for state, local and mortgage. My effective federal rate was 12%. My effective state income tax was around 4% but I also paid 10k in property taxes which pushes it up around 11% or so, throw in sales taxes paid of around a grand and you get to 12%, same as feds. So you ask why I would complain about the new tax bill when I have no clue if my effective rate will be more or less than 12% to the Feds. I know my california bill is likely to remain the same, I can live with that amount. But from what I hear, it looks like the GOP and Trump want me to pay even more to the FEDs to give money away to red states and the rich. California already pays more to the federal treasury than we recieve, we subsidize poor ignorant GOP states with our success and incomes. As for the state frittering away money, I am sure one can find things that are too expensive or generous, that is true of any budget, public or private. I would rather ask why the federal government insists on spending hundreds of billions on war and tax cuts, that is where the real money is because the rest of government is about protecting us, the people, not about lining the pockets of the military industrial complex or greedy GOP billionaires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Chief,

    No, your surveys says that California is #3 in funding their richest school districts.

    My links were about the overall state of California's educations system.
    No, it does not. Not in the slightest. Here is the link again:
    https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...states-compare

    The title: How States Compare in the 2017 Best High Schools Rankings

    Note it does not say, best funded schools.

    First two paragraphs:
    A state-by-state breakdown of the 2017 Best High Schools rankings shows that Maryland is the leading performer for the third year in a row. This state-by-state performance rating is solely based on which states have the largest proportion of their high schools earning gold and silver medals.
    This year, 27.5 percent of Maryland's eligible schools earned gold and silver medals from U.S. News. Florida came in second with 24.4 percent and California came in third with 23.6 percent.
    Note again, these are percentages, so CA does not get an inflated score due to population or some such thing. This has to do with performance, not funding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Drone,

    While I appreciate your need for non sequitur, what do you have to say about the top post?

    By the by:

    Roughly 5 million people left California in the last decade. See where they went | The Sacramento Bee
    They moved up here to the Seattle area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius the God View Post
    Boy, sometimes I wonder how any of you function at work unless someone tells you a story with pictures. Californians are worried about individual tax increases due to the loss of state and local tax deductions as well as other items no longer being deductible. I am a good example of a typical Californian household, healthy six figure combined income, big mortgage, kids in college. Last year alone I deducted almost 40k for state, local and mortgage. My effective federal rate was 12%. My effective state income tax was around 4% but I also paid 10k in property taxes which pushes it up around 11% or so, throw in sales taxes paid of around a grand and you get to 12%, same as feds. So you ask why I would complain about the new tax bill when I have no clue if my effective rate will be more or less than 12% to the Feds. I know my california bill is likely to remain the same, I can live with that amount. But from what I hear, it looks like the GOP and Trump want me to pay even more to the FEDs to give money away to red states and the rich. California already pays more to the federal treasury than we recieve, we subsidize poor ignorant GOP states with our success and incomes. As for the state frittering away money, I am sure one can find things that are too expensive or generous, that is true of any budget, public or private. I would rather ask why the federal government insists on spending hundreds of billions on war and tax cuts, that is where the real money is because the rest of government is about protecting us, the people, not about lining the pockets of the military industrial complex or greedy GOP billionaires.
    Mr. God,

    In other words, even though most people will see a tax decrease, you are only worried about yourself.

    Understand.

    By the by, could you also explain why you want to cut funding for national forest, national monuments, BLM land management, shut down all military bases, shut down most satellite tracking programs, stop making the Mississippi river navigable, shut down 10 of the 12 national energy laboratories, i.e., why do you want to shut down the majority of the US infrastructure?
    Last edited by Kallie Knoetze; 4th December 2017 at 04:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    No, it does not. Not in the slightest. Here is the link again:
    https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...states-compare

    The title: How States Compare in the 2017 Best High Schools Rankings

    Note it does not say, best funded schools.

    First two paragraphs:


    Note again, these are percentages, so CA does not get an inflated score due to population or some such thing. This has to do with performance, not funding.
    Mr. Chief,

    Again, you are talking about one small sector, i.e., high schools in rich school districts, whereas I am talking about the overall education system in California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Chief,

    Again, you are talking about one small sector, i.e., high schools in rich school districts, whereas I am talking about the overall education system in California.
    All of them are Californians. If we get to cut demographics of our choosing out of the metrics to make a specific point in this conversation, then I guess California is #1... when I play by your rule book. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. God,

    In other words, even though most people will see a tax decrease, you are only worried about yourself.

    Understand.
    Actually, I do not know one way or the other how it will affect others but I do know this, this tax bill fixes no problem, it creates no new revenues, it increases our deficits, it rewards the rich and it makes it impossible to fund needed investments here and in our youth. My two daughters paid no federal income tax last year, how exactly is this going to help them unless Trump sends them money? Most lower income people pay very little in federal income taxes, does this cut their tax bill from 1,000 to 500? No one knows, it was not created in committee, no tax experts testified, no one knows what is in the bill exactly. Hell, even today they found out they just raised taxes on corporations by including the 20% AMT. If you want to debate fellow Californians about policy, at least understand the topic or shut the f up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Whining and complaining they may have to pay higher taxes....

    Hmm, Californians pay the highest state income tax, sales tax of 9.75%, high property taxes, gas taxes just went up 12 cents/gallon to make California's gas tax the highest in the nation. State corporate taxes are the highest in the nation, making California's business climate the worst in the nation, yet nary a word about Sacramento wasting money.

    Then the Congress talks about eliminating one deduction, and the whining is off the chart....

    Gotta laugh, wot?
    Mr. Knoetze,


    A book could be written on all things wrong with California.

    One of the best whines I like to hear is when budget shortfalls are blamed on Proposition 13.

    And not a word about how California schools are dumbing down our children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    No, it does not. Not in the slightest. Here is the link again:
    https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...states-compare

    The title: How States Compare in the 2017 Best High Schools Rankings

    Note it does not say, best funded schools.

    First two paragraphs:


    Note again, these are percentages, so CA does not get an inflated score due to population or some such thing. This has to do with performance, not funding.
    This year, 27.5 percent of Maryland's eligible schools earned gold and silver medals from U.S. News
    Wonderful!

    A newspaper giving out gold stars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    If I want to whine about something, it will be the fact that states like California, New York, and New Jersey get less back in services from federal taxes than they pay in, while states like Arkansas and Alabama get more. This element of tax reform will exacerbate that problem. It's hilarious to hear CA GOP members of congress say that somehow our greater state services are a sign of mismanagement even as they want their own constituents to pay more so beggarly red states can get more at their expense.
    So you have issues with 'spreading the wealth'?

    "...beggarly red states..."

    In the meantime San Francisco's homeless rate is through the roof and other cities are disinfecting their streets.

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