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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    He wasn't cutting medicare he was cutting the INCREASES in medicare.. oops. poor kitty so uninformed.
    And you are dishonest. Cutting Medicaid reimbursement levels during a period of runaway medical inflation means fewer and fewer providers will provide care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday that congressional Republicans will aim next year to reduce spending on both federal health care and anti-poverty programs, citing the need to reduce America's deficit.

    "We're going to have to get back next year at entitlement reform, which is how you tackle the debt and the deficit," Ryan said during an appearance on Ross Kaminsky's talk radio show. "... Frankly, it's the health care entitlements that are the big drivers of our debt, so we spend more time on the health care entitlements -- because that's really where the problem lies, fiscally speaking."

    Ryan said that he believes he has begun convincing President Donald Trump in their private conversations about the need to rein in Medicare, the federal health program that primarily insures the elderly. As a candidate, Trump vowed not to cut spending on Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid. (Ryan also suggested congressional Republicans were unlikely to try changing Social Security, because the rules of the Senate forbid changes to the program through reconciliation -- the procedure the Senate can use to pass legislation with only 50 votes.)

    Ryan's remarks add to the growing signs that top Republicans aim to cut government spending next year. Republicans are close to passing a tax bill nonpartisan analysts say would increase the deficit by at least $1 trillion over a decade. Trump recently called on Congress to move to cut welfare spending after the tax bill, and Senate Republicans have cited the need to reduce the national deficit while growing the economy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.c87d486a42e0

    Well that's lovely. Pass a GOP tax plan that primarily helps the Corps and the 1% and then try to help pay for it by slashing by screwing over poor and low/middle income people.

    Of course this has been Ryan's dream forever.
    I've come to conclude that what they should really be focusing on is passing a law that mandates state, municipal and other non-federal public sector pension reform across the country. The status of state pensions is absolutely horrendous and what it requires be done to future generations under current statutes should be criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post

    Well that's lovely. Pass a GOP tax plan that primarily helps the Corps and the 1% and then try to help pay for it by slashing by screwing over poor and low/middle income people.Of course this has been Ryan's dream forever.
    Yes indeed, like killing two birds with one stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Well maybe they think since it didn't directly impact them...

    Now it will

    Again I honestly do not know why the GOP think's that their tax bill is a "winner" in any political way.

    Except that if it passes, that donor money starts flowing back in.
    The brunt of the tax cuts won't be felt for a few years.

    If history is any example, the real pain from GOP "Wealthcare" will be felt, oh, about the time the next dem takes the WH.

    If a dem doesn't win, they just continue the abuse for another term...

    Very often, "nice guys finish last" and the more ruthless are rewarded with victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    I hope you are correct. Let me ask you, why do you always have to be such a smart ass?
    Smart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    I hope you are correct. Let me ask you, why do you always have to be such a smart ass?
    He plays a game that is diversionary, the reason budgets go up is because costs go up as the boomers continue to age. If the rate of increase does not keep pace, its a cut. Since they are doing nothing to address costs other than just cutting the top line, they are leading towards a denial of services or surcharges.
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    My favorite piece is the notion of removing the deduction for state taxes, but only for individuals. Corporations still get to deduct the state taxes they pay.

    Forget Citizens United. That was small time bullshit. Corporations aren't persons. They're better than persons. After all, they provide all our jobs, they take care of everything for us, they bear such a burden, such a heavy load on our behalf... Now our tax code reflects the ideology that corporations are The People, a corporation is the new Person, and an actual person is insignificant.

    We're like skin cells.

    That's a weird image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    My favorite piece is the notion of removing the deduction for state taxes, but only for individuals. Corporations still get to deduct the state taxes they pay.

    Forget Citizens United. That was small time bullshit. Corporations aren't persons. They're better than persons. After all, they provide all our jobs, they take care of everything for us, they bear such a burden, such a heavy load on our behalf... Now our tax code reflects the ideology that corporations are The People, a corporation is the new Person, and an actual person is insignificant.

    We're like skin cells.

    That's a weird image.
    I know we have talked about it before, but I am suspecting Trump was put in on purpose by those powerful Wall Street brokers. They knew he would do all this stuff and yet be hated at the same time to focus attention off of it all. It was a brilliant scheme, since people and the media are chasing Russian stories while he and his admin is doing real damage few know about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Been that way forever. Way back in the stone age when I was a grad student, they had studies as to why people voted against their best interests. Today its the same. Poorest states are the reddest states. Seniors stand to lose the most, yet they make up the majority of right wing news followers and believers.
    This is why I decided to file for SSI Disability and got it on my first attempt. They will go after that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I know we have talked about it before, but I am suspecting Trump was put in on purpose by those powerful Wall Street brokers. They knew he would do all this stuff and yet be hated at the same time to focus attention off of it all. It was a brilliant scheme, since people and the media are chasing Russian stories while he and his admin is doing real damage few know about.
    What you said:
    https://www.thenation.com/article/do...massive-heist/

    Mnuchin and his idiot wife...what a beautiful symbol of who is running things right now. And honest, decent, real people have no recourse because our laws are written to protect corporations from us. People are supposed to be writing these laws, not corporations. I don't think it's the least bit surprising that the reality of Corporations As People is reflected in our law-making processes, our economics, everything. If I am a Person, and so is WalMart...I think we know who is going to win that tug of war. I think we know who is going to end up writing the tax code.
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