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    Ryan says GOP to target welfare, Medicare, Medicaid in 2018

    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday that congressional Republicans will aim next year to reduce spending on both federal health care and anti-poverty programs, citing the need to reduce America's deficit.

    "We're going to have to get back next year at entitlement reform, which is how you tackle the debt and the deficit," Ryan said during an appearance on Ross Kaminsky's talk radio show. "... Frankly, it's the health care entitlements that are the big drivers of our debt, so we spend more time on the health care entitlements -- because that's really where the problem lies, fiscally speaking."

    Ryan said that he believes he has begun convincing President Donald Trump in their private conversations about the need to rein in Medicare, the federal health program that primarily insures the elderly. As a candidate, Trump vowed not to cut spending on Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid. (Ryan also suggested congressional Republicans were unlikely to try changing Social Security, because the rules of the Senate forbid changes to the program through reconciliation -- the procedure the Senate can use to pass legislation with only 50 votes.)

    Ryan's remarks add to the growing signs that top Republicans aim to cut government spending next year. Republicans are close to passing a tax bill nonpartisan analysts say would increase the deficit by at least $1 trillion over a decade. Trump recently called on Congress to move to cut welfare spending after the tax bill, and Senate Republicans have cited the need to reduce the national deficit while growing the economy.

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    Well that's lovely. Pass a GOP tax plan that primarily helps the Corps and the 1% and then try to help pay for it by slashing by screwing over poor and low/middle income people.

    Of course this has been Ryan's dream forever.
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    Yep. They have never hidden their agenda. They are in it for the wealthy. But voters are acting like sheep as if they are all wealthy without realizing THEY are the targets. They all think they will be wealthy one day and they are trying to save taxes for themselves even as Congress makes them poorer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Yep. They have never hidden their agenda. They are in it for the wealthy. But voters are acting like sheep as if they are all wealthy without realizing THEY are the targets. They all think they will be wealthy one day and they are trying to save taxes for themselves even as Congress makes them poorer.
    Been that way forever. Way back in the stone age when I was a grad student, they had studies as to why people voted against their best interests. Today its the same. Poorest states are the reddest states. Seniors stand to lose the most, yet they make up the majority of right wing news followers and believers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Been that way forever. Way back in the stone age when I was a grad student, they had studies as to why people voted against their best interests. Today its the same. Poorest states are the reddest states. Seniors stand to lose the most, yet they make up the majority of right wing news followers and believers.
    Well maybe they think since it didn't directly impact them...

    Now it will

    Again I honestly do not know why the GOP think's that their tax bill is a "winner" in any political way.

    Except that if it passes, that donor money starts flowing back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday that congressional Republicans will aim next year to reduce spending on both federal health care and anti-poverty programs, citing the need to reduce America's deficit.

    "We're going to have to get back next year at entitlement reform, which is how you tackle the debt and the deficit," Ryan said during an appearance on Ross Kaminsky's talk radio show. "... Frankly, it's the health care entitlements that are the big drivers of our debt, so we spend more time on the health care entitlements -- because that's really where the problem lies, fiscally speaking."

    Ryan said that he believes he has begun convincing President Donald Trump in their private conversations about the need to rein in Medicare, the federal health program that primarily insures the elderly. As a candidate, Trump vowed not to cut spending on Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid. (Ryan also suggested congressional Republicans were unlikely to try changing Social Security, because the rules of the Senate forbid changes to the program through reconciliation -- the procedure the Senate can use to pass legislation with only 50 votes.)

    Ryan's remarks add to the growing signs that top Republicans aim to cut government spending next year. Republicans are close to passing a tax bill nonpartisan analysts say would increase the deficit by at least $1 trillion over a decade. Trump recently called on Congress to move to cut welfare spending after the tax bill, and Senate Republicans have cited the need to reduce the national deficit while growing the economy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.c87d486a42e0

    Well that's lovely. Pass a GOP tax plan that primarily helps the Corps and the 1% and then try to help pay for it by slashing by screwing over poor and low/middle income people.

    Of course this has been Ryan's dream forever.
    Since people are getting jobs you need less for Welfare and Medicaid.

    Common sense.

    That is proof the Obama Economy sucked because he said the economy was great people were getting jobs, and 15,000,000 people were added to the welfare roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Since people are getting jobs you need less for Welfare and Medicaid.

    Common sense.

    That is proof the Obama Economy sucked because he said the economy was great people were getting jobs, and 15,000,000 people were added to the welfare roles.
    No not common sense. Just more rambling from you.

    I guess you just wanted to skip over the Medicare and Medicaid part?
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    The whole thing is shocking.

    The GOP wants to cut taxes on the rich and pay for it by slashing services for the middle class and the poor.

    I am astonished. Truly amazing. My disbelief over-floweth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    No not common sense. Just more rambling from you.

    I guess you just wanted to skip over the Medicare and Medicaid part?
    it is common sense more people with jobs less people need welfare.

    Hell for the first time in years the welfare rolls have declined because millions got Jobs, and Millions more got their Obama part time jobs upsized to full time.


    Food Stamp Usage Has Fallen Every Month Under Trump | Daily Wire

    You see when people get FULL TIME JOBS they don't need welfare...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    it is common sense more people with jobs less people need welfare.

    Hell for the first time in years the welfare rolls have declined because millions got Jobs, and Millions more got their Obama part time jobs upsized to full time.


    Food Stamp Usage Has Fallen Every Month Under Trump | Daily Wire

    You see when people get FULL TIME JOBS they don't need welfare...
    What about Ryan's desire to cut Medicare, something I depend on to survive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    What about Ryan's desire to cut Medicare, something I depend on to survive?
    He wasn't cutting medicare he was cutting the INCREASES in medicare.. oops. poor kitty so uninformed.

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