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    I think he meant to invoke white privilege reserved for rich boys who would not have amounted to shit in life without riding their daddy's reality show coattails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    I think he meant to invoke white privilege reserved for rich boys who would not have amounted to shit in life without riding their daddy's reality show coattails.
    Is that related to AFLUENZA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    Trump Jr. is probably already going to jail, so Contempt of Congress --- assuming the House has the stones to press such a charge --- is hardly something he has to really worry about. At the very least until Trump's signature is on the tax bill, Ryan will probably suffocate any such motion before it hits the floor, and I doubt there would be enough Republicans willing to openly defy him and sign a discharge petition. Probably, this would still be the case *after* tax reform, though that is the big question, how much does the GOP cover for Trump once he's signed their top policy priorities into law?
    I've thought the same. Once tax reform is done, what do they really need him for?

    Going to be interesting to see what they do going in the mid-terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    I've thought the same. Once tax reform is done, what do they really need him for?

    Going to be interesting to see what they do going in the mid-terms.
    I think they will try to find a careful balancing act between getting out of Mueller's way, attempting to facilitate the investigative process from the Congressional side, and obfuscating any ties to the national party political structure both to cover their own asses and to avoid, as much as possible, alienating the Trump base.

    I think if Trump decides in the near future that he has nothing to lose and fires Mueller, it will put Republicans in a really difficult position and force them to make a decision months ahead of schedule. Whereas they will more comfortably abandon him six months from now, or especially after the midterms have come and gone and they have taken all the immediate damage they have to worry about.

    Should Mueller either attempt to charge a Trump Inner Circle member and be blocked from doing so illegitimately, or should he simply come to the conclusion that he will not be permitted to try and ask Congress to intervene, I think you could see a bipartisan impeachment process in say, December 2018.

    The question then becomes, how many Republican Senators, many of whom will be very wary of 2020 primary challengers, are willing to play ball?

    Alternatively, you could see Trump just kinda give up, throw the Inner Circle to the wolves, and/or resign if he becomes personally implicated in crimes. There is some signs he's getting tired, and would rather just watch TV and tweet than govern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    I've thought the same. Once tax reform is done, what do they really need him for?

    Going to be interesting to see what they do going in the mid-terms.
    I think they will sit back and let Mueller eat Trump and Pence alive. If Mueller cleans house for the GOP that means they don't have to clean their own house. I can see them hoping he gets Banon while he's at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I think they will try to find a careful balancing act between getting out of Mueller's way, attempting to facilitate the investigative process from the Congressional side, and obfuscating any ties to the national party political structure both to cover their own asses and to avoid, as much as possible, alienating the Trump base.

    I think if Trump decides in the near future that he has nothing to lose and fires Mueller, it will put Republicans in a really difficult position and force them to make a decision months ahead of schedule. Whereas they will more comfortably abandon him six months from now, or especially after the midterms have come and gone and they have taken all the immediate damage they have to worry about.

    Should Mueller either attempt to charge a Trump Inner Circle member and be blocked from doing so illegitimately, or should he simply come to the conclusion that he will not be permitted to try and ask Congress to intervene, I think you could see a bipartisan impeachment process in say, December 2018.

    The question then becomes, how many Republican Senators, many of whom will be very wary of 2020 primary challengers, are willing to play ball?

    Alternatively, you could see Trump just kinda give up, throw the Inner Circle to the wolves, and/or resign if he becomes personally implicated in crimes. There is some signs he's getting tired, and would rather just watch TV and tweet than govern.
    I suspect if he fired Mueller all hell will break loose. It's well known the most of the elected GOP in Congress have no love for Trump but enable him for their own reason's. Or least I would hope that would be the case. Right now with the Ray Moore thing going on, I'm wondering if the GOP has any principles left at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    I think they will sit back and let Mueller eat Trump and Pence alive. If Mueller cleans house for the GOP that means they don't have to clean their own house. I can see them hoping he gets Banon while he's at it.
    Like it or not the GOP is now the party of Trump. Even if Trump does get's impeached they can't run away from his record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    I suspect if he fired Mueller all hell will break loose. It's well known the most of the elected GOP in Congress have no love for Trump but enable him for their own reason's. Or least I would hope that would be the case. Right now with the Ray Moore thing going on, I'm wondering if the GOP has any principles left at all.
    The Roy Moore business really gives me pause. While I am enthused to see people like John Thune basically throw up his hands in frustration --- we're not really doing this, are we? Why are we doing this? --- it is still indicative of just how tribalized Republicans are from the base to the very top, and how Trump remains the undoubted chieftain. They have options. But for tribalism, they can easily allow Moore to win if he's going to without any help, refuse to seat him/expel him if that's what procedure requires, and have Gov. Bailey appoint a suitable Republican pending a repeat special election.

    This really would not cost them all that much, yes the base will be mad but the base is mad as it is. Yet they are publicly refusing to do that as a unit, and it boggles the mind, says really bad things about Senate due diligence and honest interest in defending the honor of the chamber and the party. To REALLY make Trump sweat, Jeff Flake (who is still voting for everything he's told to vote for) is not enough.

    You need 18+ Republicans (+48 Dems for a 2/3 majority). And it's not clear that, until the GOP gets its ass absolutely crushed at the polls, and maybe not even then, that those people will appear at any realistic juncture. The voter and donor base is so tribalized behind Trump the man and, more importantly, Trump the brand, the radical identity, thanks to the likes of Sean Hannity, that they can only do something like that at the cost of their job and the approval of all of their peers. That may always be too big of an ask. And that's sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    I think he meant to invoke white privilege reserved for rich boys who would not have amounted to shit in life without riding their daddy's reality show coattail.


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