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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Bullshit. There is no path to peace in the ME to be found by appeasing Arab terrorists.
    Defending your land from occupation is not "terrorism"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    No, there would be apartheid and occupation.

    Just a fact. Demographic science.

    Palestinian/Arab population already big, and growing faster than the Jews. At some point, Israel will have to make a choice: let the Arab populated areas, in West Bank and such, go; or try to rule, as I said, an apartheid state, forced rule by minority over majority, no different than South Africa; or Assad's Alawite rule of Syria; or the minority Sunni monarchy in Bahrain.

    They would not be able to maintain a peaceful democracy, unless they are willing to live as a minority in an Arab-majority country, where the Arabs, in a functioning democracy, would, eventually, outvote them.

    So, the only way, unless, again, the entity is partitioned into independent countries, like Yugoslavia; would be to forcibly subjugate the Arab minority and strip them of voting and other rights.

    Just the reality.
    No, there is another way. Respect for human rights and law and order could become a path to political power among Israeli Arabs. I think we are all fucking racists here in the West, discarding the possibility that civilization is even possible for these people.

    The failure is ours and every other stakeholder, whose bad choices embolden and empower the 7th century radical terrorists, who despise their own people only slightly less than they do Jews.

    70 years of this horseshit is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Bullshit. There is no path to peace in the ME to be found by appeasing Arab terrorists.
    Especially when people like you support segregating Palestinians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Defending your land from occupation is not "terrorism"...
    It's Israeli land.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    Especially when people like you support segregating Palestinians.
    I do, but the more important effort -- which is a duty of the West, more than it is of Israel - is to promote peace and respect for human rights among Israeli Arabs, as well as every other Muslim nation. This includes efforts to disempower terrorists and interrupt the cycle of violence. These people desperately need leaders who support education, democracy and freedom.

    Not 7th century radical misogynists. Step one should be refusing to buy another drop of OPEC oil from any producing nation that has not committed to a program to make the lives of their own citizens better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Such an in-depth understanding is so Trumpian!
    Trump is clearly no genius, and it's certainly possible to accuse him of failing to grasp all the moving parts in the Middle East. But even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

    70 years of exploitation and appeasement by the West has not brought about peace or stability. If the Arab terrorists had been disempowered 70 years ago, the entire region could have become rich in human capital. There could have been a tremendous flowering of Arab science, math, art and so on.

    Instead, we backed men who used toddlers to bomb supermarkets, because we coveted cheap oil.

    Does it really take a genius to recognize this?

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    @Madeline ......

    I can't keep up with all the leftist Joo-haters here ....

    Keep up the good fight.

    You the woman!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    @Madeline ......

    I can't keep up with all the leftist Joo-haters here ....

    Keep up the good fight.

    You the woman!!
    There are no leftist Jew haters. That's impossible. You cannot embrace human rights as your core value and then embrace antisemitism.

    What we have are stupid young people, following a clarion call to hate because they read it in the liberal blogosphere.

    "Oppressed" Arab terrorists are the stupid person's heros.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    It's Israeli land.
    Sure. And Crimea is Russian land. But only one nation is getting sanctioned here, and it ain't the "Chosen" one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    It's Israeli land.
    Not beyond the 1967 borders.
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