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    Quebec to offer guaranteed basic income

    Quebecers who have a severely limited capacity to work will gradually be able to access a guaranteed minimum income beginning next year, Premier Philippe Couillard's government announced Sunday.

    The measure is part of a $3-billion action plan to fight poverty and promote "economic inclusion," but falls short of offering a basic income for all Quebecers, a demand of many anti-poverty groups.

    An estimated 84,000 Quebecers would qualify for the minimum income measure, largely those with physical and intellectual disabilities.

    Of the 84,000, the vast majority are single people, long a neglected demographic when it comes to poverty reduction programs in Quebec.

    By next year, they will see their government assistance increased by at least $73 per month. That figure will reach $440 per month by 2023, bringing their annual guaranteed minimum to $18,029.

    The Couillard government also plans to table a bill to amend the Social Aid Act in order to guarantee its basic income provisions.

    "We cannot just support employment," said Couillard. "Employment is not the only solution to get out of poverty. It also takes measures like the ones in front of us today."

    Parti Québécois Leader Jean-Francois Lisée criticized the proposed basic income measure, saying it only benefits a small portion of the population.

    "We're far from the general idea of guaranteed minimum income," he said.
    More: Quebec to offer basic income for 84,000 people unable to work

    Interesting.

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    Interesting. Where does the money come from? It seems it comes from Quebec and not Canada? Will other provinces follow?
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    I am going to be the first to say I believe in the Free Market and many Libertarian values.

    But, the more things are automated and machines replace people, what happens next? It clearly is a new dynamic on the labor market at a level we have not known before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    I am going to be the first to say I believe in the Free Market and many Libertarian values.

    But, the more things are automated and machines replace people, what happens next? It clearly is a new dynamic on the labor market at a level we have not known before.
    Other countries that have experimented with guaranteed income tend to not have food stamps, welfare etc. Its just a basic income to keep people afloat. I do think something is going to have to be along these lines with automation coming fast. There just will no longer be enough jobs for everyone. Plus in countries with UHC, they need everyone to pay taxes to keep it going from generation to generation so I am curious as how this might affect it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Interesting. Where does the money come from? It seems it comes from Quebec and not Canada? Will other provinces follow?
    Well, British Columbia already has disability assistance: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/f...ity-assistance

    And various other income assistance programs: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/f...ome-assistance

    And here in Ontario there are various programs also: Ontario Disability Support Program

    I think Quebec wants to go into something broader than that. Eventually, a guaranteed income for all. But, not sure. They are such idealists, over there...
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    They will bankrupt the city. Wait 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    They will bankrupt the city. Wait 5 years.
    It's a province, not a city. Though, to be fair, I'm sure the lion's share of the tax money for this will come out of the city of Montreal, so, you may not be entirely wrong. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post

    excellent... hopefully they are over run by illegals and entitlement whores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    It's a province, not a city. Though, to be fair, I'm sure the lion's share of the tax money for this will come out of the city of Montreal, so, you may not be entirely wrong. Time will tell.
    It's both. But the provience city which ever will go bankrupt I stand by my statements.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    It's both. But the provience city which ever will go bankrupt I stand by my statements.

    As I said, time will tell
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