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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    California's over inflated real estate prices and real estate taxes also are deductible. California taxing authority is able to use the fed tax code to soften the misery index of California.
    Mr. Thor,

    California was supposed to have Prop 13, whereas property taxes were fixed to the price the buyer paid for the property, then it was to only increase in small increments every year. The tax and spend mad liberals couldn't get as much money to spend, so they added assessments by proposition. Basically, the renters who pay no property taxes vote in these ridiculous levees. Currently, my property taxes are $8000/year, with another $2000/year in assessments.

    Still, the roads are crap, the schools are crap, the infrastructure is crap, but government employees are being paid well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Thor,

    California was supposed to have Prop 13, whereas property taxes were fixed to the price the buyer paid for the property, then it was to only increase in small increments every year. The tax and spend mad liberals couldn't get as much money to spend, so they added assessments by proposition. Basically, the renters who pay no property taxes vote in these ridiculous levees. Currently, my property taxes are $8000/year, with another $2000/year in assessments.

    Still, the roads are crap, the schools are crap, the infrastructure is crap, but government employees are being paid well.
    Thank republicans who ran up the states debt on the credit card, and the great recession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Yep...

    they're passing off a bunch of the costs associated with their lusted after big, centrally planned and administered Ameritopia to states that don't tax the fuck out of their residents.

    This law is going to force big blue politicos to answer for their spending and ridiculous income and excise tax rates, or a bunch more of their well heeled residents will simply pull up stakes and let the looter classes fight over the remaining scraps.
    There are producers, looters and leeches. The producers will leave and the leeches will suck the host dry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Thor,

    California was supposed to have Prop 13, whereas property taxes were fixed to the price the buyer paid for the property, then it was to only increase in small increments every year. The tax and spend mad liberals couldn't get as much money to spend, so they added assessments by proposition. Basically, the renters who pay no property taxes vote in these ridiculous levees. Currently, my property taxes are $8000/year, with another $2000/year in assessments.

    Still, the roads are crap, the schools are crap, the infrastructure is crap, but government employees are being paid well.
    Consider getting out...if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    You don't pay taxes on taxes. You pay federal income tax, state income tax, and local taxes.

    And no, the change means that citizens will be tax on the federal level, exactly the same, whereas before, some taxpayers were paying less than others.

    And no, it's no money in, money out. Every citizen pays exactly the same given the same income and same circumstances. Again, your are citing a disproven liberal bromide.
    People should have to pay taxes on the same money with which they pay other taxes. And it is money in, money out in its effect on states.

    And again, are you saying that someone from California shouldn't have to pay for a national forest in Alaska? Then by all rights, shouldn't only the people of Alaska decide to do with their forest lands?
    No one said that.
    Last edited by Rasselas; 4th January 2018 at 09:54 PM.

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    LOL Regressive insanity. No standing, no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Thank republicans who ran up the states debt on the credit card, and the great recession.
    Ms. Labrea,

    The Democrats, you know, the ones that control the budget, have held both houses of the legislature since 1990.

    Sorry to ruin your premise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    People should have to pay taxes on the same money with which they pay other taxes. And it is money in, money out in its effect on states.

    No one said that.
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Again, that is what is happening. Just because Californians and New Yorkers choose to pay more taxes, doesn't mean the federal government should have to foot the bill for it.

    And yes, you did. You decried that Californians have to pay for things like national forests in other states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Consider getting out...if possible.
    Mr. Thor,

    Almost there, so close to retirement. I'll be like my neighbor down the block, who sold his 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 1700 sq. foot house for $1.1M and moved to Houston where he bought a bigger house for about $300K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Rasselas,

    Again, that is what is happening. Just because Californians and New Yorkers choose to pay more taxes, doesn't mean the federal government should have to foot the bill for it.
    It's the agreement that was made when the federal income tax was first created, 104 years ago.

    And yes, you did. You decried that Californians have to pay for things like national forests in other states.
    I think you're wrong. Quote me.

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