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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Thor,

    That has been my point for a long time. Instead of complaining about the highest state income taxes in the nation, the highest sales tax in the nation, increasingly higher property taxes ever year due to added on assessments, onerous business taxes that have driven up the prices of goods and services, whiny liberal Californians are complaining about losing a federal tax break.
    Many have left California, those that can (middle class ) left the tax hell hole to find a better life. California will draw more illegals and chase away the middle class. How do you reason with dumb? What is California's $$ burden to deal with illegals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Many have left California, those that can (middle class ) left the tax hell hole to find a better life. California will draw more illegals and chase away the middle class. How do you reason with dumb? What is California's $$ burden to deal with illegals?
    Mr. Thor,

    California needs the illegals. Who else will the liberals use to wipe their babies' butts, clean their toilets, wash their dishes, etc., for little or no pay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Thor,

    California needs the illegals. Who else will the liberals use to wipe their babies' butts, clean their toilets, wash their dishes, etc., for little or no pay?
    Dont forget about agricultural workers feeding the rest of the country. You do want to keep the price of your food low, dont you?

    California produces a sizable majority of many American fruits, vegetables, and nuts: 99 percent of artichokes, 99 percent of walnuts, 97 percent of kiwis, 97 percent of plums, 95 percent of celery, 95 percent of garlic, 89 percent of cauliflower, 71 percent of spinach, and 69 percent of carrots (and the list goes on and on). Some of this is due to climate and soil. No other state, or even a combination of states, can match California’s output per acre. Lemon yields in California, for example, are more than 50 percent higher than in Arizona. California spinach yield per acre is 60 percent higher than the national average. Without California, supply of all these products in the United States and abroad would dip, and in the first few years, a few might be nearly impossible to find. Orchard-based products in particular, such as nuts and some fruits, would take many years to spring back.

    California grows all of our fruits and vegetables. What would we eat without the state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Many have left California, those that can (middle class ) left the tax hell hole to find a better life. California will draw more illegals and chase away the middle class. How do you reason with dumb? What is California's $$ burden to deal with illegals?
    Actually your wrong on that.

    Illinois has the biggest number of people moving out of state.

    And of course, the usual suspects show up to bash CA, even though they don't live here.

    It's a weird obsession, especially when you consider that the article is about NY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by publius3 View Post
    Yes, completely, that's how it is calculated. Other things are phased out, not that one.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altern...tax#Exemptions

    "Individuals are not allowed certain deductions in computing AMT that are allowed for regular tax. No deduction is allowed for personal exemptions or for the standard deduction. The phase-out of itemized deductions does not apply. No deduction is allowed for state, local, or foreign income or property taxes. A recovery of such taxes is excluded from AMTI. No deduction is allowed for most miscellaneous itemized deductions."

    If you prefer the less straightforward statute:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/56



    Yes, we do. They know exactly how many took it this year. 70% took the standard deduction. 30% itemized. Of the 30%, 75% take less than 24k. They are expecting 75% less people, not to itemize, but to simply choose the higher standard deduction



    Nonsense. Cuomo is engaged in lawfare for political gain (not that Republicans don't do it, but this one is particularly frivolous). If he believed in it people would have been marching on Washington decades ago with respect to the current law.
    Mmm, pretty sure I'm going to take the word of my tax return and my husband who is a CPA over what you just posted. Because you do realize that the AMT only effects a certain portion of your income if you qualify to pay the AMt right?

    It's not nonsense. This bill was drafted to target the most influential blue states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    I'm thinking of the same of the CA republicans who voted for it.

    I can just see the attacks ads.

    Well, they can just not run again like many other scum republicans and cash out

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Dont forget about agricultural workers feeding the rest of the country. You do want to keep the price of your food low, dont you?
    Labea,

    True, Californians loves their illegals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Actually your wrong on that.

    Illinois has the biggest number of people moving out of state.

    And of course, the usual suspects show up to bash CA, even though they don't live here.

    It's a weird obsession, especially when you consider that the article is about NY.
    It must be in the handbook these trolls work out of, they all make the same stupid comments. Meanwhile their states are meth and heroin addicted shitholes, crumbling cities, trailor parks, poor education, poor healthcare, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    It must be in the handbook these trolls work out of, they all make the same stupid comments. Meanwhile their states are meth and heroin addicted shitholes, crumbling cities, trailor parks, poor education, poor healthcare, etc
    Dr. Simpson,

    The hand books are called "Critical Reasoning, A Practical Introduction," by Anne Thompson, "The Logic of Real Argumen" and "Critical Thinking; An Introduction," by Alec Fisher, and my favorite, "Critical Thinking Skills: Developing Effective Analysis and Argument (Palgrave Study Skills)," by Stella Cottrell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Actually your wrong on that.

    Illinois has the biggest number of people moving out of state.

    And of course, the usual suspects show up to bash CA, even though they don't live here.

    It's a weird obsession, especially when you consider that the article is about NY.
    Yep. its the conservative war on california.

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