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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservatarian View Post
    Again, I am going to take great pleasure in absolutely stomping you lefties in the ground when this completely unfolds.

    Hint....do you remember how you felt when it was confirmed Trump won?

    You ain't seen nothing yet. But you will. You lefties just never learn.
    Oh I am going to so love it when Trump does the perp walk after he either has to resign or face impeachment due to the crimes he has committed both in and out of office with the most glaring being trying to obstruct justice by firing Comey. Oh sweet irony. You might even get mildly nauseated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Oh I am going to so love it when Trump does the perp walk after he either has to resign or face impeachment due to the crimes he has committed both in and out of office with the most glaring being trying to obstruct justice by firing Comey. Oh sweet irony. You might even get mildly nauseated.
    Sweet pea...your tin foil hat has been compromised. Look into heavy duty foil. Please...for you sanity, I beg of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservatarian View Post
    Sweet pea...your tin foil hat has been compromised. Look into heavy duty foil. Please...for you sanity, I beg of you.
    Fucking troll. Grow up.

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    Fucking troll. Grow up.

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    That's just really fucking stupid. I'll consider the source.
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    What I care about is not subject your assessment of its correctness. It does not matter how many members of the press are colluding with politicians and advocacy groups (though I suspect it's not insignificant). It's a fundamental violation of journalistic ethics. It's my campaign. I think it's vitally important that it be confronted.

    This investigation could reveal a money trail that connects politicians to advocacy groups to members of the press. That's a really big deal, TO ME. The Russians have been trying to corrupt elections for a hundred years. Apparently Obama didn't care to stop them and the press has decided to blame a private citizen running for office.

    Can anyone see the problem with this?
    I'm trying to see your point but I am struggling to believe that every single news source with the exception of a minority few is in a united conspiracy. It doesn't seem fathomable. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're suggesting has happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TennesseeRain View Post
    That's just really fucking stupid. I'll consider the source.
    Having a bad night ? Buck up...the real shit is really about to hit the fan. You think you are pissed now? Damn girl.....just wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    No, as this wouldn't answer the question I've posed do you. I'm not questioning your judgment about ethics.

    Fine. Beyond not listening to WTIC AM (where is this station, and how does a single AM radio station somehow represent all of the mainstream media?) what do you suggest we do?
    Here's the thing--so long as the "abuses" you're talking about occur on both left and right, I'm not sure what there is to complain about, or what's to be done other than not paying attention to them. You seem to want some sort of government action--but that's not possible under our system (and a good thing too). Media owners have always played an outsized and self-interested role in our politics (see Hearst and Pulitzer) but the only response is for the public to identify their biases and be wary of them. How did the era of Yellow Journalism end? A new media frenzy--book length exposes of industry became much more interesting, following the concerns of the public over workplace safety and the outsized political power and wealth of men like Carnegie and Rockefeller and Mellon. It was what libertarians like to call "creative destruction" and resulted in changes in the media. Then there was the invention of a new, more democratic medium: radio. Bad as it may be in the moment, our system is self-correcting.

    What you're overlooking is that the CAUSE of the problem you're discussing is the system of media we've developed in our country. The much more dangerous element here is the proliferation a fractured and multifarious media in which every potential audience member can choose from a cornucopia of sources, each one providing him with the news dressed up exactly as he likes it. That's what's profitable, so that's what media will provide us. Until we stop patronizing such sources, they will continue to operate--unless you want to take a sledge hammer to the First Amendment.

    I'd argue our system is self correcting. First, people discover they're being lied to and change their sources of news. Second, the interests of the public change as a result of conditions, regardless of the intentions of media ownership. Third, in nearly every case you need merely wait for stories to cool a bit before you eat them--we've seen that the MSM (unlike InfoWars and the like) regularly print corrections and retractions and discipline journalists when they make mistakes.

    You really want some government agency to exercise prior restraint? Or is it just better to wait a week for the cement to harden before you believe any story?
    I want concerned journalists and the associations they belong to be given a platform for elevating the standards, sounding the alarm and setting a high bar.

    The AstroTurf campaign against Atkkison after her book was published, which was a sound, even handed call to awareness shows how the entrenched shapers of opinion don't want investigative journalism competing with their smear operations.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...s-astroturfing

    https://sharylattkisson.com/2017/02/...turf-epidemic/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    I'm trying to see your point but I am struggling to believe that every single news source with the exception of a minority few is in a united conspiracy. It doesn't seem fathomable. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're suggesting has happened.
    Why does everyone think I am suggesting a monolithic conspiracy? Read the links in the above post. The idea of media advocacy groups pushing their views of the world on the public by posing as news does not require a monolithic conspiracy. There are many news propaganda operations. The Russians used astroturfing operations in the last election. From Media Matters to Brietbart, there are groups that blend news and opinion in ways that give news a bad name and lower the bar on what news is supposed to look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trish View Post
    I'm trying to see your point but I am struggling to believe that every single news source with the exception of a minority few is in a united conspiracy. It doesn't seem fathomable. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're suggesting has happened.
    That's exactly what he's been suggesting. it's absurd.

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