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    What's behind Trump's unusual promotion of friendship with Russia?

    The "smoking gun"

    "The President's Florida properties are a Russian birth tourism hotspot, according to a Daily Beast investigation. Trump resorts are a popular choice for birth tourism companies, who offer luxury holidays to help expectant Russian parents secure dual Russian and American citizenship for their baby by giving birth in the US. "

    "Russian birth tourism companies are offering Trump apartments as part of packages costing £57,000 ($75,000) plus, as well as medical care, the Daily Beast found."

    "Status-Med, a Miami birth tourism company, offers a Trump Royale penthouse apartment for £5,300 ($7,000) a month alongside full access to the Sunny Medical Centre, which organises both beach yoga, get-togethers and medical care for expectant mothers."



    https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle...-a3628971.html



    Follow the money........
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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    The "smoking gun"

    "The President's Florida properties are a Russian birth tourism hotspot, according to a Daily Beast investigation. Trump resorts are a popular choice for birth tourism companies, who offer luxury holidays to help expectant Russian parents secure dual Russian and American citizenship for their baby by giving birth in the US. "

    "Russian birth tourism companies are offering Trump apartments as part of packages costing £57,000 ($75,000) plus, as well as medical care, the Daily Beast found."

    "Status-Med, a Miami birth tourism company, offers a Trump Royale penthouse apartment for £5,300 ($7,000) a month alongside full access to the Sunny Medical Centre, which organises both beach yoga, get-togethers and medical care for expectant mothers."



    https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle...-a3628971.html



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    Interesting.
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    While President Trump cracks down on the children of undocumented migrants, wealthy Russians are using his properties to secure dual-citizenship for their babies.

    "There is nothing in the law that makes it illegal for pregnant women to enter the United States," said Virginia Kice, spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. She added, however, that the "vast majority" of women hoping for an American child misrepresent the purpose of their visit in order to gain tourist visas. That, Kice said, is criminal.

    Even if they declare they are entering the U.S. to give birth, there is another barrier to overcome. The State Department notes visas are granted on an individual basis, but the family must provide proof of sufficient funds to cover any planned and unplanned medical costs.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/foreigners...s/3626080.html

    So in other words money talks and bullshit walks. I wonder were all the Trump supporters are and why they aren't interested in this thread?
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    I wonder if Vlad will make Trump 'disappear' when all this comes to fruition, or just take out his knee-caps.
    If found guilty of treason, Trump should go the down the same route the Rosenbergs did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    While President Trump cracks down on the children of undocumented migrants, wealthy Russians are using his properties to secure dual-citizenship for their babies.

    "There is nothing in the law that makes it illegal for pregnant women to enter the United States," said Virginia Kice, spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. She added, however, that the "vast majority" of women hoping for an American child misrepresent the purpose of their visit in order to gain tourist visas. That, Kice said, is criminal.

    Even if they declare they are entering the U.S. to give birth, there is another barrier to overcome. The State Department notes visas are granted on an individual basis, but the family must provide proof of sufficient funds to cover any planned and unplanned medical costs.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/foreigners...s/3626080.html

    So in other words money talks and bullshit walks. I wonder were all the Trump supporters are and why they aren't interested in this thread?
    Ja......follow the money.....

    Either Trump wants that gravy train to continue or he wants to use it as a means to build sentiment to dump the law that gives citizenship to those born here. If this gets more publicity it might become an issue that could end up in court regarding a debate and perhaps a decision about the intent of the law. Was the intent to facilitate what these women are doing or was the intent to encourage people to stay, have children and settle in America?

    One of the charges against King George III in the Declaration of Independence was:

    "He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands."
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    What unusual promotion are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnotaFrayed View Post
    The "smoking gun"

    "The President's Florida properties are a Russian birth tourism hotspot, according to a Daily Beast investigation. Trump resorts are a popular choice for birth tourism companies, who offer luxury holidays to help expectant Russian parents secure dual Russian and American citizenship for their baby by giving birth in the US. "

    "Russian birth tourism companies are offering Trump apartments as part of packages costing £57,000 ($75,000) plus, as well as medical care, the Daily Beast found."

    "Status-Med, a Miami birth tourism company, offers a Trump Royale penthouse apartment for £5,300 ($7,000) a month alongside full access to the Sunny Medical Centre, which organises both beach yoga, get-togethers and medical care for expectant mothers."



    https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle...-a3628971.html



    Follow the money........
    Kushner sold visas to wealthy Chinese if they invested in his properties.

    In a Beijing ballroom, Kushner family pushes $500,000 ‘investor visa’ to wealthy Chinese
    Last edited by DebateDrone; 10th January 2018 at 12:17 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    What unusual promotion are you referring to?
    If you don't know...do you really need to know?

    If you can't see the forest thru the trees...do you really need to see the forest?
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    Off topic...but related to buying citizenship...by Chinese.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    While President Trump cracks down on the children of undocumented migrants, wealthy Russians are using his properties to secure dual-citizenship for their babies.

    "There is nothing in the law that makes it illegal for pregnant women to enter the United States," said Virginia Kice, spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. She added, however, that the "vast majority" of women hoping for an American child misrepresent the purpose of their visit in order to gain tourist visas. That, Kice said, is criminal.

    Even if they declare they are entering the U.S. to give birth, there is another barrier to overcome. The State Department notes visas are granted on an individual basis, but the family must provide proof of sufficient funds to cover any planned and unplanned medical costs.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/foreigners...s/3626080.html

    So in other words money talks and bullshit walks. I wonder were all the Trump supporters are and why they aren't interested in this thread?

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    "When I sell a condo for $25,000,000.....to a man from China" Trump benefits from the trade deficit with China and the Chinese who get rich from that trade deficit and can afford to buy the real estate the neo 'hero of the working class' sells.



    Hey, I don't want to tell anyone what Trump does, I'd rather they hear it directly from the horse's (a**) mouth.

    Anyone see a tax return yet?


    "If something goes to someone's head, it makes that person think that they are very important and makes them a less pleasant person:"
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...o-to-sb-s-head

    Any guesses as to what went to Trump's head?


    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20366662
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