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    Go back 50 or 60 years, which is easy for me as I remember that far back, and a man could go get a job that would pay for a mortgage on a modest home, put food on the table, and keep a car going with enough left over for a few pleasures. Now, that's still true not only of a man, but of a woman as well if he/she has gone to school and gained appropriate job skills. If not, then the family must depend on government largesse (what you're calling "entitlements" despite the fact that they're not entitled to them) in order to live. Today's economy is quite different from what it used to be. Many things actually cost less, when adjusted for inflation, than they did in the 1950's, but two items have totally outstripped the average low wage earners' ability to pay: housing, and medical care.

    Not everyone has a chance to or takes advantage of the chance to get marketable job skills. Those who do, often find themselves deeply in debt, and sometimes with job skills that aren't so marketable.

    Entering the middle class is more difficult than it used to be.
    I don't necessarily call all social programs "largesse" because by European standards our offerings to poor young adults are not particularly generous. Nor do I necessarily call them "entitlements" because as you said no one is necessarily entitled to them, except in a few significant cases such as Social Security and Medicare.

    Entering the middle class is more difficult than it was during the most economically expansive time in the entire economic history of the world (U.S. post-WWII), that's true. On a longer timeline though, I think it's a tough argument to say life is in general more difficult now than it ever used to be. It's more difficult than one particular anomalously easy 20-year period of time, but still technically easier than the vast majority of human history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I don't necessarily call all social programs "largesse" because by European standards our offerings to poor young adults are not particularly generous. Nor do I necessarily call them "entitlements" because as you said no one is necessarily entitled to them, except in a few significant cases such as Social Security and Medicare.

    Entering the middle class is more difficult than it was during the most economically expansive time in the entire economic history of the world (U.S. post-WWII), that's true. On a longer timeline though, I think it's a tough argument to say life is in general more difficult now than it ever used to be. It's more difficult than one particular anomalously easy 20-year period of time, but still technically easier than the vast majority of human history.
    Well, earning a living is a lot easier now than it was before the machine age.

    You used the phrase "acting entitled," which I took to mean entitlements. Maybe that was wrong. You're right that SS and Medicare are things we're entitled to, but aren't what most people mean by "entitlements." The means tested welfare programs are better called "largesse" in my opinion.
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    WE TOLD YOU DIM-O-CRATS SO.. FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS WITH LOVE.

    Bonuses Raises Lower prices they are EVERYWHERE because of the TRUMP TAX CUT..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, they still exist for some reason, but where the paperboy would peddle through town delivering to maybe 90% of the houses he passed, now more like 10% of the houses get a paper delivered. Delivering papers now takes a lot more time and a lot more distance to get the same job done.
    This post is either a demonstration of your posting about a subject that you know nothing about or is just trying to troll me because we are political opposites. Either way, it is blatantly IGNORANT. It is a stupid post. It is post from someone who obviously knows NOTHING about the newspaper industry. In 49 states newspapers are still used as the required means for legal notices. Paperboys haven't ridden bicycles or walked in a long time. Now they drive cars. The paperboy used to walk a neighborhood delivering 50 - 100 newspapers. Now a carrier drives a car, delivering 250+ newspapers in just a couple of hours. See these things called CARS make it possible to deliver more papers in actually less time than those bicycle carriers. I shake my head when I read such an ignorant post.

    Delivery of newspapers is a good way to make extra money for someone that cannot work a traditional job. There are many people who do this because they can leave for a couple hours while everyone else is asleep. Tell me something, Dittohead not! what did you contribute that helped the poster who could not work a part-time job with traditional hours because of someone at home with help problems? NOTHING.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    This post is either a demonstration of your posting about a subject that you know nothing about or is just trying to troll me because we are political opposites. Either way, it is blatantly IGNORANT. It is a stupid post. It is post from someone who obviously knows NOTHING about the newspaper industry. In 49 states newspapers are still used as the required means for legal notices. Paperboys haven't ridden bicycles or walked in a long time. Now they drive cars. The paperboy used to walk a neighborhood delivering 50 - 100 newspapers. Now a carrier drives a car, delivering 250+ newspapers in just a couple of hours. See these things called CARS make it possible to deliver more papers in actually less time than those bicycle carriers. I shake my head when I read such an ignorant post.

    Delivery of newspapers is a good way to make extra money for someone that cannot work a traditional job. There are many people who do this because they can leave for a couple hours while everyone else is asleep. Tell me something, Dittohead not! what did you contribute that helped the poster who could not work a part-time job with traditional hours because of someone at home with help problems? NOTHING.
    Print newspapers are dying faster than you think

    No one is surprised to learn that the newspaper industry is in structural decline. But the latest revenue numbers tell a scary story, with print ad revenue falling steeply even amid a healthy overall economic situation. This means things will get much, much worse when the next recession hits, and many newspapers could be forced out of business altogether.
    The above is wrong, of course. Someone is surprised: you.

    But, back to the subject, which wasn't originally getting a paper route to supplement a job with lousy wages. Good on WalMart for giving their employees a small raise. They are spending 0.06% of their revenue on said raise. I think they can afford it, don't you?

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    Hope Walmart have a contingency in place when taxes go back up in the future.

    It's easy to give but hard to take back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Print newspapers are dying faster than you think

    The above is wrong, of course. Someone is surprised: you.

    But, back to the subject, which wasn't originally getting a paper route to supplement a job with lousy wages. Good on WalMart for giving their employees a small raise. They are spending 0.06% of their revenue on said raise. I think they can afford it, don't you?
    The subject was not getting a newspaper route to supplement lousy wages. Thanks for proving that you have no clue what you are talking about and are posting from ignorance. A poster on this forum, in this thread said that he/she was unable to work a normal part-time job due to the number of hours required to be away from someone for which they must provide care. I suggested a newspaper route, as a potential way to earn money without being locked into the rigid hours of a job with a schedule. You, wanting to be a troll, decided that since I'm a conservative and was the one that suggested it, you would post idiotic messages about newspaper routes and bicycle carriers. You posted the statement that it takes longer to deliver the routes and all that fun.

    Newspaper routes are now delivered by vehicle. The routes still take between one and four hours to deliver, depending on how many routes you have. Keep in mind that they routes really can't take longer than that to deliver because of the time that the papers reach the warehouse and the delivery deadline. Delivery of newspaper is usually a contractor position which gives additional freedom when a carrier needs to take additional days off, they can send someone to deliver the route for them. The newspaper doesn't care as long as the route gets delivered. Many people deliver newspapers because they need that ability to only work a few hours each night.

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    Wal-mart is closing stores and going more automated, eliminating jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Wal-mart is closing stores and going more automated, eliminating jobs.
    This is true, Walmart has been going to more self checkouts, pick up, and online ordering. It is the future. Labor is expensive. The more you pay for labor, the more ways you look to find how to use less.

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    Hope Walmart have a contingency in place when taxes go back up in the future.

    It's easy to give but hard to take back.
    They will just do what they always do...screw over the associates.

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