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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    CIS?? Might as well included FAIR as well.


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    Ms. HayJenn,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Immigrant households with a U.S. citizen child qualify for aid because of their child.

    If we allowed the parents to work legally, less aid would be needed for the children.



    But Trump is moving us in the opposite direction. Deporting productive, job-creating parents, which is pushing more U.S. citizen children onto welfare.
    Are the parents going to leave their kid behind.

    If illegal immigration never happened we would be so far ahead of the game. Costs, our own people fighting over policy, corruption of the labor force, corruption of politics, corruption of our citizens towards covering for this mess. Illegals are a nightmare on the nation. The internal struggles it's generated is epic. Americans are battling each other because of an invading country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Excalibur,

    Granted, this is just a personal observation, but I work close to the Oakland social security office. Every morning, I come in, there are lines of elderly, foreign looking people standing in line wait to get their chance to suck off the federal government.
    Really? You know the stories behind these people or are you just making assumptions again? We've tried to warn you about assumptions but you haven't been listening.

    Making assumptions can really make an Ass out of you.
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    CIS is a racist organization...might as well get your information from storm front
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Excalibur,

    Granted, this is just a personal observation, but I work close to the Oakland social security office. Every morning, I come in, there are lines of elderly, foreign looking people standing in line wait to get their chance to suck off the federal government.
    Hospitals, schools, prisons, courts, etc. On top of that tens of billions of their earnings are sent out of the country. No benefit to us. What are we spending on border patrol to keep illegals out.

    Yes many legal immigrants are on the dole. So the issue goes back to who you want in. Which is what Trump was asking about. The media went into a racial fit. That's what they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Ms. HayJenn,

    LOL, mediabiasfactcheck.com? Might as well use the Daily KOS as well:
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    The problem is there is no official US Government analysis. All information on illegal immigration costs on the Government and economy are just biased guess timates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Hospitals, schools, prisons, courts, etc. On top of that tens of billions of their earnings are sent out of the country. No benefit to us. What are we spending on border patrol to keep illegals out.

    Yes many legal immigrants are on the dole. So the issue goes back to who you want in. Which is what Trump was asking about. The media went into a racial fit. That's what they do.
    You guess. Might as well make it a Trillon dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HadEnough2 View Post
    Really? You know the stories behind these people or are you just making assumptions again? We've tried to warn you about assumptions but you haven't been listening.

    Making assumptions can really make an Ass out of you.
    Mr. Enough,

    You made the assumption. I just made a personal observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Hospitals, schools, prisons, courts, etc. On top of that tens of billions of their earnings are sent out of the country. No benefit to us. What are we spending on border patrol to keep illegals out.

    Yes many legal immigrants are on the dole. So the issue goes back to who you want in. Which is what Trump was asking about. The media went into a racial fit. That's what they do.
    You do know that it was SCOTUS and Regan who mandated free ER care and schooling right?

    So maybe you should take that up with them.
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    FAIR is an important voice in the immigration debate, but they use bad statistics to further their aims, and they do it deliberately.

    The impact of immigrant families on our tax system cannot be measured until you consider what they pay in and never claim against as well as what they draw, and arrive at a net figure.

    Immigrants are a huge taxpaying group, and their contributions to social security alone allows us to limp along. Without their payments, we could not sustain the current entitlement levels without acquiring much more debt.

    Lastly, FAIR considers all English as a Second Language teachers, etc. to be an immigrant-only expense. Obviously, this is not true.
    Last edited by Madeline; 12th January 2018 at 02:45 PM.
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