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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    It's all the same thing. A Government benefit.
    Nope. Requirements are very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I think this hypermoral, victim blaming anger at the poor is self-defeating. I define a healthy society as one in which most people are middle class, while far fewer are rich or poor. One in which paths for upward mobility are easily found and reliable.

    By my measure, the U.S. does not have a healthy society and has not had one since the late 1950's.

    We have a very serious future challenge, as to how to offer young people not just a universal benefit they can subsist on, but a meaningful life if they can never work.

    I suspect you resent the poor because you have a mistaken belief that your family lives less well and is more insecure because the government diverts too many resources to the poor.

    The truth is, beginning no later than the 1970's, our government has been diverting middle class income and assets to the 0.01%.

    These are not moral or philosophical questions we can never know the answer to. These are observable economic facts, and we need look no further than Mexico to observe the impact of ever more extreme income inequality.

    After WWII, Mexico had a stable, expanding middle class and a responsible government. Over the last 70 years, the uber rich of Mexico have destroyed their middle class by "legal" means, gobbling up those assets for themselves.

    And destroying Mexican society in the process.
    You know nothing about my family so you should refrain from commenting on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Nope. Requirements are very different.
    Really? Looks all the same to me. "I don't have and I need and you HAVE to give it to me" That's what it looks like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    I would agree with community service, as well as drug testing. Millions of dollars are scammed from our social systems. It needs to be stopped.
    Unemployment insurance is an earned benefit and should not be conditioned on a drug test. That's like drug testing life insurance beneficiaries -- their "sinful" behavior is immaterial.

    Community service would allow high unemployment areas to attend to government projects that had to be abandoned when that city's tax revenues fell. It would demonstrate the "ready, willing and able to work" component of unemployment insurance. And it would reduce the isolation and frequent depression that often afflicts the unemployed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    That pertained to Welfare - not Medicaid.
    I see...usually the two go hand in hand together. I reread the article. Kentucky is struggling with budget issues right now...they have lost a significant number of their middle class who usually pay taxes. I really don't see a problem if jobs are available, which is the key point. The State needs the revenue to support the program and other programs such as education. My cousin is a teacher and the cuts are unbelievable. They have lost bus transportation and are consolidating schools to share resources.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    You know nothing about my family so you should refrain from commenting on them.
    Come again? I never mentioned your family in my posts to this thread.

    Or any posts I wrote, to my knowledge.

    Did you mean to reply to someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    it's counter-intuitive too. Likely, to actually lead to more unemployment. People who are injured can't go to the doctor to get back in the proper physical conditions to work. Bunch of bigoted dummies in Kentucky , or what?
    Not really, just a poor State trying to make ends meet. Your argument makes zero sense. Workers comp is used for workplace injuries, not Medicaid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I see...usually the two go hand in hand together. I reread the article. Kentucky is struggling with budget issues right now...they have lost a significant number of their middle class who usually pay taxes. I really don't see a problem if jobs are available, which is the key point. The State needs the revenue to support the program and other programs such as education. My cousin is a teacher and the cuts are unbelievable. They have lost bus transportation and are consolidating schools to share resources.


    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...wont-be-pretty
    Kentucky does not have to participate in Medicaid, but if it does not it will not receive the federal dollars that would have funded 50% of the program's costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Not really, just a poor State trying to make ends meet. Your argument makes zero sense. Workers comp is used for workplace injuries, not Medicaid.
    One cannot get worker's compensation if one does not: 1) have a job at the time of the injury; and 2) an injury that was obtained while in the course and scope of employment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bronwyn View Post
    kentucky on friday became the first u.s. State to receive approval from the federal government to implement work requirements in medicaid, a fundamental change to the 50-year-old government health insurance program for the poor.
    The approval came one day after the centers for medicare and medicaid services issued policy guidance allowing states to design and propose test programs that require work or jobs training as a condition of receiving medicaid, which has never had such conditions attached.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ke...d=ansmsnnews11

    time to pull the crutch on people who are able bodied but too lazy to work.
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