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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I see...usually the two go hand in hand together. I reread the article. Kentucky is struggling with budget issues right now...they have lost a significant number of their middle class who usually pay taxes. I really don't see a problem if jobs are available, which is the key point. The State needs the revenue to support the program and other programs such as education. My cousin is a teacher and the cuts are unbelievable. They have lost bus transportation and are consolidating schools to share resources.


    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...wont-be-pretty
    Well since the vast majority of people on Medicaid would be exempted - how much do they really they can really raise out of this proposal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Not really, just a poor State trying to make ends meet. Your argument makes zero sense. Workers comp is used for workplace injuries, not Medicaid.
    Legalize and tax marijuana. Release every nonviolent drug offender now in KY custody as a prisoner. Eliminate tax breaks on "farms" dedicated to horses.

    That would give KY real savings, while this "work for Medicaid" will not.

    But it doesn't solve the underlying problem: how does KY mean for young adults to earn a living?

    It's the same challenge that every other state faces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    One cannot get worker's compensation if one does not: 1) have a job at the time of the injury; and 2) an injury that was obtained while in the course and scope of employment.
    Workers compensation is different from Workers comp medical coverage. If a person is injured due to work, their medical care is paid by workers comp insurance. Many people in Kentucky have workers comp as a medical insurance, especially miners. If a person is sick or disabled, I am sure they will not be excluded from Medicaid services if they are unable to work. Trust me when I say this, there are a few people in Kentucky where it would not hurt them to get off their ass and work. The problem would be, are there jobs for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    How was TANF a failure??

    The FY 2016 national average overall work participation rate was 51.9 percent

    https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ofa/resource...es-for-fy-2016

    And welfare is very different than Medicaid.

    But your right in the sense that these new "work" requirements are not going to apply to many people.
    It is rare for anyone to receive Medicaid but not TANF. There is a portion of the elderly poor in desperate need of skilled nursing care, and some catastrophic Medicaid coverage for the uninsured facing a terminal illness.

    CHIPS covers the children of the working poor, who earn too much to qualify for TANF, or whose entire lifetime eligibility has been used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Come again? I never mentioned your family in my posts to this thread.

    Or any posts I wrote, to my knowledge.

    Did you mean to reply to someone else?
    Post #29. were you not quoting and answering me? You were, and you referred to my family. I don't talk about my family here because I don't want them attacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    There's enough in just that 8% that need to go to work. It should appeal to you too, but then again, you want to pay for leeches who live off taxpayers.
    Yep, put those lazy deadbeats to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Legalize and tax marijuana. Release every nonviolent drug offender now in KY custody as a prisoner.
    Of course, the release of slave labor into the free labor market will cause its own problems. But at least it would help put private prisons out of business.

    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    But it doesn't solve the underlying problem: how does KY mean for young adults to earn a living?
    KY means no such thing. That is, apparently, their problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPorter View Post
    Yep, put those lazy deadbeats to work.

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    Good, I'm glad you agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Workers compensation is different from Workers comp medical coverage. If a person is injured due to work, their medical care is paid by workers comp insurance. Many people in Kentucky have workers comp as a medical insurance, especially miners. If a person is sick or disabled, I am sure they will not be excluded from Medicaid services if they are unable to work. Trust me when I say this, there are a few people in Kentucky where it would not hurt them to get off their ass and work. The problem would be, are there jobs for them.
    Adults who do not have custody of at least one child are completely excluded from virtually every social safety net program. Nobody can just show up at their county social service office and start receiving TANF without a kid

    Edited to add: ALMOST nobody.
    Last edited by Madeline; 12th January 2018 at 03:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    I guess you didn't bother to read how when Florida tried this is was a total failure and ended up costing the state more than anything they got back?

    Kind of cracks me up to think that somehow "poor" people all do drugs.
    They don't? Well, hell's bells.

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