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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    There are 20,000,000 people unemployed, the Unemployment rate is the lowest in 17 years, there are 20,000,000 Illegal immigrants working in the US.

    Hmmm Kick out the 20,000,000 working illegals and 20,000,000 US citizens will have jobs. (not legal immigrants ILLEGAL IMMIGRATNS)

    Also that would free up 25,000,000,000 dollars in the state of CA to Rebuild the states infrastructure.

    LOL - there is nowhere near that many illegals. Roughly about 10 million.

    And illegals in CA actually give 3 BILLION to our state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    There are 20,000,000 people unemployed, the Unemployment rate is the lowest in 17 years, there are 20,000,000 Illegal immigrants working in the US.

    Hmmm Kick out the 20,000,000 working illegals and 20,000,000 US citizens will have jobs. (not legal immigrants ILLEGAL IMMIGRATNS)

    Also that would free up 25,000,000,000 dollars in the state of CA to Rebuild the states infrastructure.
    Still holding out for Americans to get those fruit picking and yard mowing jobs, and have to commute 100 miles a day to do it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Still holding out for Americans to get those fruit picking and yard mowing jobs, and have to commute 100 miles a day to do it...
    Yep.. I picked fruit, and Corn, and Tomatoes ... That was one of the ways I was able to attend college without debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Yep.. I picked fruit, and Corn, and Tomatoes ... That was one of the ways I was able to attend college without debt.
    Would have been tough to do that if you lived in down town Chicago, wouldn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    The majority of people benefiting from Medicaid are children, disabled, or elderly, and would be exempt from work requirements. If you exclude pregnant women and parents with young children, the number of affected people shrinks even more. The majority of the remaining non-disabled adults are working. And some of them can only work because they get Medicaid — such as people who have mental illnesses or struggle with substance abuse but who, with reliable health care, are healthy and stable enough to work. Making work a prerequisite for Medicaid could, perversely, wind up preventing such people from working.

    Nearly two-thirds of Medicaid recipients are children, blind or otherwise disabled, or elderly. Work requirements would be plainly inappropriate in those cases, and so proposals typically exclude them. Kentucky’s proposed plan applies only to “‘able-bodied’ working age adults,” not including students and caregivers, per the Kaiser Family Foundation. If you drill down into the third or so of Medicaid beneficiaries who are working-age adults and don’t get Supplemental Security Income for a disability, you find that the majority work, and an even larger majority live in households where someone works. Those who don’t have understandable reasons, as this chart from Kaiser Family Foundation president Drew Altman suggests — they’re sick, they’re in school, they’re retired, or they can’t find a job:



    This is a solution in search of a problem,” Sara Rosenbaum, a professor of health policy at George Washington University who serves on a board advising Congress on Medicaid policy, says. “There’s just no evidence that too many people aren’t working who can work. If you say ‘able-bodied’ enough times, you give a sense that there are people just sitting around who could work, but that’s just not the case.”

    https://www.vox.com/2017/4/6/1518131...irements-trump

    So another "policy" that won't really do much, but appeals to his base.
    Well, it will certainly create more jobs for those who's job it is to insure the "able-bodied" are actively seeking work.

    This is a lot like the drug testing idea FL had, it will cost more to enforce than it saves in preventing fraud.

    That said, when are we going to demand this kind of accountability in the DoD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Yep.. I picked fruit, and Corn, and Tomatoes ... That was one of the ways I was able to attend college without debt.
    Don't they have machines that do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    There are 20,000,000 people unemployed, the Unemployment rate is the lowest in 17 years, there are 20,000,000 Illegal immigrants working in the US.

    Hmmm Kick out the 20,000,000 working illegals and 20,000,000 US citizens will have jobs. (not legal immigrants ILLEGAL IMMIGRATNS)

    Also that would free up 25,000,000,000 dollars in the state of CA to Rebuild the states infrastructure.
    So 100% employment sounds good, but who's going to build the infrastructure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    Even one caught is worth the cost.
    Why? Because it's not about money, it's about justifying cruelty to the poor?

    If that's the case, just repeal all safety net programs and watch them starve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Yeah... meh. I don't have a problem with this. It's mostly feel-good legislation. It won't really accomplish anything but they can high-five each other that they took it the poor again. Pretty harmless.
    the harm would be felt by those with addiction problems. They are able bodied, but would lose treatment under this legislation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    I would agree with community service, as well as drug testing. Millions of dollars are scammed from our social systems. It needs to be stopped.
    Guess you better move to Kentucky then so you can make sure they are all working. ROFLMAO!

    You come across as a very mean-spirited individual. Glad I don't know you.

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