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    Governor Moonbeam at it again

    I'm just going to leave this right here.

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    Jerry Brown’s Legacy: A $6.1 Billion Budget Surplus in California


    The governor hopes to avoid the fate of predecessors who left office with big deficits

    By Alejandro Lazo and
    Nour Malas

    Jan. 10, 2018 5:40 p.m. ET
    LOS ANGELES—California Gov. Jerry Brown appears poised to exit office next year with a top political priority in hand: free from the massive budget deficits that had weighed on his predecessors.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-b...nia-1515624022






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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    I'm just going to leave this right here.

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    Jerry Brown’s Legacy: A $6.1 Billion Budget Surplus in California


    The governor hopes to avoid the fate of predecessors who left office with big deficits

    By Alejandro Lazo and
    Nour Malas

    Jan. 10, 2018 5:40 p.m. ET
    LOS ANGELES—California Gov. Jerry Brown appears poised to exit office next year with a top political priority in hand: free from the massive budget deficits that had weighed on his predecessors.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-b...nia-1515624022





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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    I'm just going to leave this right here.

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    Jerry Brown’s Legacy: A $6.1 Billion Budget Surplus in California


    The governor hopes to avoid the fate of predecessors who left office with big deficits

    By Alejandro Lazo and
    Nour Malas

    Jan. 10, 2018 5:40 p.m. ET
    LOS ANGELES—California Gov. Jerry Brown appears poised to exit office next year with a top political priority in hand: free from the massive budget deficits that had weighed on his predecessors.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-b...nia-1515624022


    Reining in overgrown state spending is great, but I'd stop short of throwing a party over that surplus given how dwarfed it is by the state's unfunded public pension liabilities.

    It's too bad it takes someone like Brown right up until the eve of his retirement to finally do the right thing regarding unions and pensions (meaning start trying to drive a hard bargain on behalf of taxpayers).

    Brown, with nothing to lose, defies unions on pensions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Reining in overgrown state spending is great, but I'd stop short of throwing a party over that surplus given how dwarfed it is by the state's unfunded public pension liabilities.

    It's too bad it takes someone like Brown right up until the eve of his retirement to finally do the right thing regarding unions and pensions (meaning start trying to drive a hard bargain on behalf of taxpayers).

    Brown, with nothing to lose, defies unions on pensions
    Interesting - Kentucky is in worse shape with their pensions yet nobody wants to talk about that. And they are running a big deficit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It's too bad it takes someone like Brown right up until the eve of his retirement to finally do the right thing regarding unions and pensions (meaning start trying to drive a hard bargain on behalf of taxpayers).
    How has he been doing that, exactly? We've seen losses in funding for state agencies, but there's been no change in pensions.

    If he really were driving the hard bargain you're talking about, wouldn't someone be angry enough to strike? And yet we've seen no strikes by state employees. My contract just got extended, with two raises in the next two years. The state organ I work for is underfunded in terms of its needs (we turned away 25K qualified students last year) but my compensation hasn't suffered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Interesting - Kentucky is in worse shape with their pensions yet nobody wants to talk about that. And they are running a big deficit.
    And with McConnell's plan for Obamacare, the state stands to lose about 25,000 health care jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Interesting - Kentucky is in worse shape with their pensions yet nobody wants to talk about that. And they are running a big deficit.
    Nice deflection.

    The subject of this thread is Guv Moonbeam and California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Nice deflection.

    The subject of this thread is Guv Moonbeam and California.
    LOL... I give it 30 seconds and you'll make this thread about: but Hillllllary!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    LOL... I give it 30 seconds and you'll make this thread about: but Hillllllary!!!
    In the immortal words of Calvin Coolidge..."you lose".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    I'm just going to leave this right here.

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    Jerry Brown’s Legacy: A $6.1 Billion Budget Surplus in California


    The governor hopes to avoid the fate of predecessors who left office with big deficits

    By Alejandro Lazo and
    Nour Malas

    Jan. 10, 2018 5:40 p.m. ET
    LOS ANGELES—California Gov. Jerry Brown appears poised to exit office next year with a top political priority in hand: free from the massive budget deficits that had weighed on his predecessors.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/jerry-b...nia-1515624022





    How did he get the surplus, took money from state employees' Pensions...

    Way to Go Moonbeam

    California?s pension debt puts it $175.1 billion in the red | The Sacramento Bee

    What happens when the state employees retire and there is no money in their pensions.

    Would it be harsh to say I TOLD YOU SO, or should I just be silent and let them get the tar and feathers for Browne

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