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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    The main thing is that they also included Religious Belief for parity. So, why the whining?
    Why are they whining about Pence? He is supposed to have religious rights there. Instead the obnoxious hypocrites are slamming him

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Why are they whining about Pence? He is supposed to have religious rights there. Instead the obnoxious hypocrites are slamming him

    Just because Pence has "religious rights" that doesn't excuse him from being criticized for violating the rights of others.

    White supremacists have religious rights. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be condemned.

    Having "religious rights" is not a get out of jail free card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Just because Pence has "religious rights" that doesn't excuse him from being criticized for violating the rights of others.

    White supremacists have religious rights. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be condemned.

    Having "religious rights" is not a get out of jail free card.
    Can't disagree.

    Haven't really followed Pence. Are there cases when he actually violated people's civil rights??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Just because Pence has "religious rights" that doesn't excuse him from being criticized for violating the rights of others.

    White supremacists have religious rights. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be condemned.

    Having "religious rights" is not a get out of jail free card.
    What rights did he violate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Can't disagree.

    Haven't really followed Pence. Are there cases when he actually violated people's civil rights??
    I haven't followed him much either. Maybe someone else here will answer the question better. The main thing I found was this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religi..._Act_(Indiana)

    After much negative feedback, that was quickly followed up with an amendment to protect LGBT people, but he signed it in the form which would have allowed discrimination.

    He has also made statements against equality for gays, including against gays serving in the military and against gay marriage. Obviously in the long run he didn't have his way on that. But it's part of the package that gays are protesting against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Actually, it would be so much better if both Trump and Pence would resign. I know, then it would be House Speaker Ryan's turn but then that would be the lesser of two or three evils. We can't wait till 2020 when a Democrat takes the White House! It won't come soon enough!
    Well, you can wish for Trump and Pence to resign all day. You can think it would be good for your party for them to resign, but that is highly unlikely to happen. The funniest thing is that you all on the left want to make Mike Pence the President of the United States. You don't get to pick and choose who will be President. Your side lost. I know that fact escapes you. I haven't heard Mueller say that he has anything on Pence, at all. Hell, we haven't heard him say he has anything on Trump either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Yeah, yeah, we all know Pence can mouth trite pro-America platitudes. We got that part.

    But they don't mean anything coming from someone who carries Trump's water while talking about how humbled and blessed he is to serve the pussy grabber.

    Really. They don't.
    That's one way of looking at it. Another is that Pence put aside any misgivings he might have and decided they had a common interest so he sent a gracious message to someone who then acted petty in response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    What is despicable is he is favor of conversation therapy.
    Liberals: Your sexuality is completely unchangeable. We don't know for certain what determines it but we know for sure that it's hardwired into you and nothing can change it.

    Also liberals: Gender is completely optional. You have dozens of choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    You all want Trump to resign. If he resigns, you get President Pence. Be careful what you ask for...
    You're telling us to "be careful what you ask for." Really? Trump is the definition of "be careful what you ask for."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    You all want Trump to resign. If he resigns, you get President Pence. Be careful what you ask for...
    I am fully aware. But I do not believe his crazy or a danger to the United States. He is not full of himself and in it for his own glorification.

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