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Thread: South Carolina bill would require schools to display 'In God We Trust' posters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Well, you're attempting to speak for everyone and not everyone believes in God, therefore, you are LYING when you use the word "WE."

    "WE," don't all believe in God so when YOU say that "WE" do, it is YOU who are lying.
    Not attempting to speak for anyone. Trying to get someone to comment on this issue. Instead no one talks the issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Still not getting an answer. Is it a separation of Church and State issue for a public school to display America’s Motto?
    can't you read?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    can't you read?
    Did you read my response? The court says no state religion has begun from our Motto

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Did you read my response? The court says no state religion has begun from our Motto
    What is the purpose, why not use E Pluribus Unum, our moto for almost 200 years, and it would not stir controversy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    Here's a link to the actual listing.

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    Why doesn't this surprise me?
    It surprises me. I would have thought Mississippi or Alabama would be last.
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    The motto violates the Lemon test. By definition, using the term "G-d" is religious and promotes religion, and thus cannot have a secular purpose. By teaching kids to believe in G-d, because "we" all do, it is teaching religion.
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    As kids at school, we sang hymns at the start of the day, a prayer was said at meal time. This has all vanished and replaced by unruly boisterous kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    As kids at school, we sang hymns at the start of the day, a prayer was said at meal time.
    All of which is unconstitutional. The government has no place teaching religion, much less one particular religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    All of which is unconstitutional. The government has no place teaching religion, much less one particular religion.
    God can mean any religion so you are not teaching a specific religion

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    G-d can mean any religion so you are not teaching a specific religion
    First of all, no. The government has no business teaching religion, period. Furthermore, some religions have no g-d, some have many.

    Second of all ... again, no. If you read the comments to which I was responding, you cannot teach people hymns and prayers without teaching a specific religion, or the state composing them itself.

    We all know that a specific religion is at issue, here; that the point is the institutionalization of that religion into the government; and that the ultimate point is to have the government teach that religion to children. All unconstitutional.

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