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    Quote Originally Posted by Idiocracat View Post
    There are plenty of books depicting history that aren't demoralizing to blacks.
    People in favor of censorship always think there's some other book.
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    Books? Do kids read anything besides texts?
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    Duluth drops 'Huckleberry Finn,' 'To Kill a Mockingbird' from school curriculum - StarTribune.com

    Students in Duluth will no longer automatically get schooled in “The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn” or the trials of Atticus Finch in “To Kill a Mockingbird.”

    In an effort to be considerate of all students, the two novels, which contain racial slurs, will no longer be required reading in the district’s English classes next school year. They will still be available in the schools for optional reading, however.

    “The feedback that we’ve received is that it makes many students feel uncomfortable,” said Michael Cary, director of curriculum and instruction for the district. “Conversations about race are an important topic, and we want to make sure we address those conversations in a way that works well for all of our students.”


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    WTF? I read those books. Yes, it made me "uncomfortable". But, it also queued a discussion among the students and teacher about how times were different. The evolution of thoughts, ideas, and language. There is so much more positive that can come out of those books than negative, and it's not even close. We hear people coming down on younger generations for being "snowflakes", but who is actually teaching them to be this way?

    What a shame.
    The irony is that the single offensive word for which those books are banned is only offensive when not spoken by the approved group of people. Otherwise it's thrown around with reckless abandon and is considered harmless and inoffensive, in fact even familiar and friendly, when spoken by the right people.
    Double standards abound.

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    This just seems like typical use of education as a means to innoculate kids against dangerous ideas. There's this perception that certain thoughts are so harmful that they are like infectious diseases. Reading that someone referred to someone else using a racial slur is (to some people) one of those things that could soil the purity and injure the resale value of our most awesome crop—kids. It's not much different from pinhead conservative calls to alter history courses to "promote citizenship, patriotism, benefits of the free enterprise system, respect for authority..." bla bla blah. They don't want to teach history, they want to teach you the history that they think will make you into the person they think you should be.

    They don't want kids (or people in general) to know the truth, they want to craft a truth that will turn them into the people they want. Taking books off the reading list because they contain words that kids might be uncomfortable reading certainly qualifies. No one is talking about teachers or anyone calling kids by those words. We're talking about books in which people use those words within the story. It's a small step towards erasing history. After all, if we take off Huck Finn for this reason, then we have to take off Alice Walker's The Color Purple too, right?

    Funny side story. I downloaded the Huck Finn book on tape (mp3 really, but whatever) so I could listen to it on my way to and from work a couple years ago. Pulled into a gas station with the windows down AT EXACTLY THE WRONG FUCKING TIME IN THE STORY because as I rolled up to the pumps a string of N-words started flowing out of the speakers and I fumbled to stop the car and the radio at the same time, myself using profanities. It was a mess.
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    I'd like to see somebody try to censor music, that would be amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    ... Funny side story. I downloaded the Huck Finn book on tape (mp3 really, but whatever) so I could listen to it on my way to and from work a couple years ago. Pulled into a gas station with the windows down AT EXACTLY THE WRONG FUCKING TIME IN THE STORY because as I rolled up to the pumps a string of N-words started flowing out of the speakers and I fumbled to stop the car and the radio at the same time, myself using profanities. It was a mess.
    Nice one.
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    If it's still available on a voluntary basis, I don't see the problem.

    I get that the vast majority of kids in schools do not spend much of their time at the library. But, those who want to read these books, still can. Nobody is being deprived here

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    "The feedback that we’ve received is that it makes many students feel uncomfortable"

    Welcome to the real world, life is not all sunshine and rainbows. When Labour were in power for 13 years in the UK, we often said it was now a cotton wool society ran by wet flannels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Correct. You may have never read it had it not be "forced". My favorite is "For Whom the Bell Tolls". I found the book amazing, but wold have never read it had it not been mandatory.
    I think "For Whom The Bell Tolls" is a bit more advanced than Huck Finn and TKAMB. I don't think they were given at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    "The feedback that we’ve received is that it makes many students feel uncomfortable"

    Welcome to the real world, life is not all sunshine and rainbows. When Labour were in power for 13 years in the UK, we often said it was now a cotton wool society ran by wet flannels.
    Do not make the mistake of thinking that PC is the reason for the change. The root will be fears of litigation and protests and most of any similar crap we read will be driven by fear of parental reactions and any subsequent claims. Parents are the worst whiners when it comes to schools these days.
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