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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Sigh - the whole unmasking thing in regards to Obama administration has been debunked several times.

    No it hasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    No it hasn't.
    @excalibur Yes it’s been debunked by Sessions DOJ. We can’t help it if you and Trumpsters like you refuse to accept the facts even when provided from Trumps own govt when they don’t support what you want them to. For goodness sakes even Nunes admits there was nothing to support Trumps allegations of wiretapping.

    MAR 22, 2017
    Trump's unfounded claim that President Obama had wiretapped his telephone ricocheted throughout the country, shook Washington and stunned disbelieving U.S. allies. The fallout continues to rattle the embryonic Trump White House.

    The president's own Justice Department, the head of the FBI and the bipartisan leaders of two congressional oversight committees have all said they've found no evidence to substantiate the outlandish assertion.


    How the phony conspiracy theory over wiretapping caught fire

    Mar 15, 2017
    A key U.S. Republican congressman said on Wednesday he has seen no evidence that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential campaign, adding pressure to FBI Director James Comey to provide evidence supporting or debunking Republican President Donald Trump's claim.

    "We don't have any evidence that that took place," said House of Representatives intelligence committee chair Devin Nunes. "I don't think there was an actual tap of Trump Tower."


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/wiretap...-fbi-1.4026603
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    The most breathtaking aspect of special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictment of 13 Russian nationals is not the charges against the defendants, but how perfectly those charges describe the machinations of the Russiagate Players.

    By Russiagate Players, I refer to the relevant Hillary Clinton campaign officials and allies, Obama administration principals and holdovers in the law enforcement, national security and foreign policy apparatuses, Fusion GPS players and the journalists apparently in cahoots with them, who all helped create and disseminate the fast-collapsing Trump-Russia collusion narrative.

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    If we are talking about “fraud and deceit for the purposes of interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016,” perpetrated by foreign actors, does anything better fit this description than the collective Christopher Steele dossier drama? Here we have a document alleging “salacious and unverified” Russian disinformation-like details about President Trump’s connections to Russia, sourced from unknown Russian officials by an ex-British intelligence agent.

    The dossier was funded by Trump’s presidential opponent and the Democratic National Committee (DNC). It served prominently both directly and indirectly in a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant used to effectively spy on the Trump campaign, presented to the FISA court four times without mention of many core details about the document’s defects, conflicts of interest, or the document’s author’s breaking of FBI protocol, causing it to cease working with him for its Russia investigation.

    Was everything about this document not fraudulent and deceitful, from creation to weaponization? Did it not lead to a cascading series of events “interfering with the U.S. political and electoral processes, including the presidential election of 2016”? How about the notion of “sow[ing] discord” in the U.S. political system?

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    https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/21...cted-russians/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    @excalibur @Crusher

    Think about the size of the claim here: the Clinton campaign, which was convinced it was going to beat Trump in a landslide, funded an espionage-laden high-wire act with*a firm whose clients included some unsavory Russians themselves, in which a highly experienced British spook got suckered by the Democrats into weaponizing some Russian disinformation. (Steele could outplay the Russians, but he couldn’t outplay Robby*Mook?)

    There are other variations on this theme, but central to all of them was the idea that without Fusion there would be nothing, and that we would know this if only we could know what Simpson said to the Senate investigators. But since the Senate intelligence committee wouldn’t release the transcript, we couldn’t know just how much Simpson had spilled his guts.


    So now we know, and none of it supports the rickety Jenga pile of Republican conspiracy theories.*
    Instead of being the source of the FBI investigations,*Simpson claimed that the FBI was already on to the Russians, not least because our Australian allies warned us that the Russians claimed to have dirt on Clinton, which they learned because George Papadopoulos, a Trump advisor, was*bragging about it to an Australian diplomat.
    Also, according to Simpson, Steele was so horrified by what he was finding*that he contacted the FBI instead of just reporting back to his Clintonian masters. Worse yet, Simpson describes Steele as finding the FBI so in the tank —*not for Clinton, but for Trump —*that Steele stopped cooperating with them.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/1023938001/
    Exactly... the scale of just how criminal this is, all the more reason you should also want to seek justice... you don't want one side to get that much more power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    By the huge volume of unmaskings by Susan Rice and an unknown Obama Administration official(s) using Samantha Power's access, it is clear that the Obama Administration and Hillary Clinton minions were indeed spying on the Trump campaign and using the DoJ / FBI to do it.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-era-unmasking
    No Trump 'victory lap' as Congress probes Obama-era 'unmasking'

    Carter Page and Mike Flynn were used to spy on the campaign by Democrats.


    LOL, Comey and Rosenstein are Democrats? HA HA. They are the ones that were signing off on the FISA warrants.
    he FBI’s intelligence activities are overseen by the Director of National Intelligence.

    Has any body heard from Dan Coats on FISA? He was a GOP senator and was appointed by Trump in March 2017. Just this October 2017 Coats said this:

    Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats begged for renewal of the nation’s top foreign electronic snooping program Friday, saying it’s gotten a bad rap and the program’s error rate is less than one in a hundred.
    Mr. Coats and other top administration officials want Congress to grant a full, permanent reauthorization of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which governs the government’s ability to intercept electronic communications of foreigners located overseas.
    The provision is set to expire, and a number of members of Congress have called for major changes if it’s to be renewed, saying they fear Americans are being snared in the collection.
    Mr. Coats, though, said those who run the program already work hard to protect Americans’ rights. He said the error rate of “unintended” collection is about half a percentage point each year.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tes-low-error/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    LOL, Comey and Rosenstein are Democrats? HA HA. They are the ones that were signing off on the FISA warrants.
    he FBI’s intelligence activities are overseen by the Director of National Intelligence.

    Has any body heard from Dan Coats on FISA? He was a GOP senator and was appointed by Trump in March 2017. Just this October 2017 Coats said this:

    Director of National Intelligence Daniel Coats begged for renewal of the nation’s top foreign electronic snooping program Friday, saying it’s gotten a bad rap and the program’s error rate is less than one in a hundred.
    Mr. Coats and other top administration officials want Congress to grant a full, permanent reauthorization of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which governs the government’s ability to intercept electronic communications of foreigners located overseas.
    The provision is set to expire, and a number of members of Congress have called for major changes if it’s to be renewed, saying they fear Americans are being snared in the collection.
    Mr. Coats, though, said those who run the program already work hard to protect Americans’ rights. He said the error rate of “unintended” collection is about half a percentage point each year.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tes-low-error/
    I know you like to think that being Republican makes a person perfect and incapable of corruption, but it's really not quite true.

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    Lol the title of this OP alone is enough to prove how deep into conspiracy territory you have to go to believe this nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    How the FBI spied on Trump through Carter Page AFTER Page left the campaign




    https://www.conservativereview.com/a...left-campaign/
    Way to go FBI. I love the FBI.

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    Holy shit, some random guy said that the FISA warrent means they could collect past communication? Must be true. Better believe it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchboxxy View Post
    Holy shit, some random guy said that the FISA warrent means they could collect past communication? Must be true. Better believe it!
    It's not just "random guy"... must be nice to use ignorance as a strength.
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