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    Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied

    Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied


    In March 2017, then-FBI Director James Comey briefed a number of Capitol Hill lawmakers on the Trump-Russia investigation. One topic of intense interest was the case of Michael Flynn, the Trump White House national security adviser who resigned under pressure on Feb. 13 after just 24 days in the job.

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    So in March, lawmakers wanted Comey to tell them what was up. And what they heard from the director did not match what they were hearing in the media.

    According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional. As a result, some of those in attendance came away with the impression that Flynn would not be charged with a crime pertaining to the Jan. 24 interview.

    Nine months later, with Comey gone and special counsel Robert Mueller in charge of the Trump-Russia investigation, Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements to the FBI in that Jan. 24 questioning.

    What happened? With Flynn awaiting sentencing that was recently delayed until at least May some lawmakers are trying to figure out what occurred between the time Comey told Congress the FBI did not believe Flynn lied and the time, several months later, when Flynn pleaded guilty to just that.

    None of those congressional investigators has an answer; they're baffled by the turn of events. But they know they find the Flynn case troubling, from start to finish.

    Byron York: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied

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    A bit more.

    So even if Flynn discussed the hot issue of U.S. sanctions against Russia with Kislyak, that was OK. "I don't have a problem with that," former Bush national security adviser Stephen Hadley said in February 2017. "I don't see what would be wrong if [Flynn] simply said, look, don't retaliate, doesn't make sense, it hurts my country, it makes it harder for us as an incoming administration to reconsider Russia policy, which is something we said we'd do. So just hold your fire and let us have a shot at this."

    Indeed, it appears the FBI did not think Flynn had done anything wrong in the calls. On Jan. 23, the Washington Post reported that the FBI had reviewed the Flynn-Kislyak calls and "has not found any evidence of wrongdoing or illicit ties to the Russian government." (The calls had been intercepted by U.S. intelligence because the U.S. monitored the Russian ambassador's communications — something which Flynn, a former chief of the Defense Intelligence Agency, surely knew.)
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    Damn? What the hell Comey?

    Comey was a good firing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied





    Byron York: Comey told Congress FBI agents didn't think Michael Flynn lied
    When the FBI interviewed Flynn they had no reason to believe Flynn would lie to them.


    According to two sources familiar with the meetings, Comey told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional.

    It wasn't until they investigated what Flynn told them did they learned he was a rat-faced traitor.
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    BTW Shortly after accepting his guilty plea the judge was recused form the Flynn case, sentencing was put off since that time by the new judge, Judge Sullivan. Did Mueller and his rotten team withhold exculpatory evidence from the Flynn defense team? In spite of exculpatory evidence did Mueller and his rotten team continue to pursue Flynn into bankruptcy? We know that the Mueller hire, Andrew Weissman, has a nasty history and has had no compunction throughout his career to stretch facts.

    More recently we learned that Weissman praised Sally Yates for her insubordination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    BTW Shortly after accepting his guilty plea the judge was recused form the Flynn case, sentencing was put off since that time by the new judge, Judge Sullivan. Did Mueller and his rotten team withhold exculpatory evidence from the Flynn defense team? In spite of exculpatory evidence did Mueller and his rotten team continue to pursue Flynn into bankruptcy? We know that the Mueller hire, Andrew Weissman, has a nasty history and has had no compunction throughout his career to stretch facts.

    More recently we learned that Weissman praised Sally Yates for her insubordination.
    Lot of speculation there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Lot of speculation there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    BTW Shortly after accepting his guilty plea the judge was recused form the Flynn case, sentencing was put off since that time by the new judge, Judge Sullivan. Did Mueller and his rotten team withhold exculpatory evidence from the Flynn defense team? In spite of exculpatory evidence did Mueller and his rotten team continue to pursue Flynn into bankruptcy? We know that the Mueller hire, Andrew Weissman, has a nasty history and has had no compunction throughout his career to stretch facts.

    More recently we learned that Weissman praised Sally Yates for her insubordination.
    @excalibur the judge that recused himself was only present to accept the guilty plea. The judge could have recused himself for any number of reasons of which we are not privy and quite frankly who cares? Flynn has his own lawyers and if he thought there was something up in terms of calling for some sort of mistrial or revoking his guilty plea, the lawyer would have done it already.

    With respect to all the other shit in your thread here, the FBI had no reason to believe that a former General would lie to them and say he did not speak with the Russian ambassador about sanctions. When the tape came out of the NSA it confirmed that in fact FLYNN had talked to the Russians about the sanctions. Its kind of hard to dispute that kind of hard evidence. It's a straight forward lie to the FBI and he got caught with a tape of the conversation that confirmed he did discuss the topic he said he had not discussed.

    Do you think Flynn is an idiot? Do you think his lawyers are idiots? Flynn was caught red handed in a lie so there is no room for denials or any kind of credible defence. The fact that the sentencing is delayed likely has a pretty simple explanation as well. The sentencing outcome hinges on the evidence Flynn turned over to Mueller in exchange for the plea bargain. Flynn will get a light sentence and even a suspended sentence IF THE EVIDENCE HE TURNED OVER TO MUELLER is valid. Perhaps they are waiting to talk to Trump who is delaying talking to Mueller as Trump is scared shitless even though he will not admit it. His lawyers know Trump can't go more than 1 minute without lying so they don't want him to talk to Mueller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Lot of speculation there.

    That is why I used question marks.

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    New developments in Flynn's case raise questions about the circumstances under which he pled guilty to lying to the FBI.

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    I still wonder what Mueller’s team told Flynn before the guilty plea. There are good reasons to do so.

    Flynn’s case is back in the news thanks to Byron York’s important Washington Examiner report yesterday. He retraces the history: Because Flynn was a Trump transition official and incoming national-security adviser, there was nothing at all inappropriate about his discussing Obama-imposed sanctions against Russia with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Nevertheless, then–acting attorney general and Obama partisan Sally Yates seriously considered prosecuting Flynn under the absurd, never-invoked Logan Act. This misconception that Flynn had done something wrong led Yates and Comey to have Flynn interviewed as if he were a criminal suspect. Apparently unconcerned, Flynn agreed to be interviewed without counsel. Strzok came away from the session believing that Flynn had told the truth. Comey, Byron York reports, “told lawmakers that the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn did not believe that Flynn had lied to them, or that any inaccuracies in his answers were intentional.”

    Yet, ten months later, with Yates, Comey, and Strzok now out of the picture, Mueller decided to charge Flynn with lying to the FBI anyway. And Flynn decided to plead guilty — perhaps because he was guilty . . . or perhaps because he lacked the resources to sustain the legal fight . . . or perhaps because he feared Mueller’s team would otherwise prosecute his son.

    There are a few other oddities about the case.

    Michael Flynn Guilty Plea -- Questions Raised about FBI & Robert Mueller's Investigation | National Review
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