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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    A) Is a lie. You've been shared links on this multiple times DEBUNKING that claim, yet you repeat it.
    B) Clinton didn't have to. The press did it for her.

    All of your "verified" is meaningless in regards to Trump. If someone lies about it, then it's just the good old trap game.

    This is not a rehash of the Nunes' Memo. This is an independent review of the entire dossier over a long period of time.
    It's not a lie - unless you want to call Fox News liars

    Conservative website funded initial Fusion GPS Trump opposition effort | Fox News

    And what again did the press do for her??? Are you saying she made them post news stories about the dossier?

    It is basically a rehash of the Nune's memo, which turned out out to be a big nothing

    And parts of the dossier have been verified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    It's not a lie - unless you want to call Fox News liars

    Conservative website funded initial Fusion GPS Trump opposition effort | Fox News

    And what again did the press do for her??? Are you saying she made them post news stories about the dossier?

    It is basically a rehash of the Nune's memo, which turned out out to be a big nothing

    And parts of the dossier have been verified.
    Fox News never claimed what you claimed. You are being dishonest. Fox News claims they initially funded Fusion GPS during the primaries, not for the dossier.

    You claimed, "a conservative source paid for the dossier first". Your claim is not true and you know it, because you have been told this with verified links repeatedly.

    How many times do you have to be proven wrong on this one?

    The Washington Free Beacon only funded Fusion GPS during the primaries and they only did public information research. Once it was clear Trump was the nominee they shut it down.

    Hillary Clinton and the DNC funded Fusion GPS with private research and contacts with Russian agents during the General Election.

    Once more, for good measure: Conservatives didn't fund the Steele dossier

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/...teele-dossier/

    Also, the NY Times:

    “All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to The Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that The Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier,” they said. “The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele.”

    Now that is the 3rd or 4th time your claim has been debunked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Fox News never claimed what you claimed. You are being dishonest. Fox News claims they initially funded Fusion GPS during the primaries, not for the dossier.

    You claimed, "a conservative source paid for the dossier first". Your claim is not true and you know it, because you have been told this with verified links repeatedly.

    How many times do you have to be proven wrong on this one?

    The Washington Free Beacon only funded Fusion GPS during the primaries and they only did public information research. Once it was clear Trump was the nominee they shut it down.

    Hillary Clinton and the DNC funded Fusion GPS with private research and contacts with Russian agents during the General Election.

    Once more, for good measure: Conservatives didn't fund the Steele dossier

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/...teele-dossier/

    Also, the NY Times:

    ďAll of the work that Fusion GPS provided to The Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that The Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier,Ē they said. ďThe Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele.Ē

    Now that is the 3rd or 4th time your claim has been debunked.
    Twitchy really as a source?

    I stopped reading it right there.

    Let's say your right and and people connected to the Clinton campaign paid for it?

    Big deal. Again, they never used any of it during the campaign because at that time, none of it had been verified. Parts of it now have been.

    And what did the press do for her again? You never elaborated on that point.
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    I provide 2 other sources... The NY Times and the Washington Examiner.

    I am right. The dossier was purely a creation of the Clinton and DNC funding. That has been established.

    The only parts verified are meager bits that do not hurt Trump. Most of it, per the O.P. remains unverified crap. If it were true, or trusty Left Wing Media would have ran out and verified it.

    The press peddled the crap out of it from Buzz Feed to CNN to ABC News to the NY Times.... they all pushed it like a drug early on. When in fact, it was cancer for the Leftwing Press, the Clintons, the DNC, the DoJ / FBI, and maybe even the Obama Administration. This is the investigation that matters now. It doesn't turn out well for the Left. They played with fire and are getting burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Nah... there was plenty of leaks from Mueller's team... and they never had anything substantive regarding Trump.
    In that case, you have nothing to worry about....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    In that case, you have nothing to worry about....
    Correct!
    I would think the right would be encouraging a thorough investigation to prove their point,
    but all I see from the supporters here is the 'catch-me-if-you-can' defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...sations-unver/


    As the dossier today takes on even more importance, The Washington Times identified Mr. Steele’s 10 core collusion accusations. The analysis includes the charges’ status, 20 months after Mr. Steele first contacted the FBI and urged the prosecution of President Trump.


    • The Trump campaign launched an “extensive conspiracy” with the Kremlin to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. To date, no public verification.

    • Mr. Trump and senior campaign aides actively supported the Russia hacking of Democratic Party computers to steal and release stolen emails. To date, no public verification.

    • Mr. Page, an Annapolis graduate, an energy investor and a former resident of Moscow, traveled to that city in early July 2016 to deliver a public speech at a university. The dossier says he met with two top Kremlin operatives and discussed bribes for working to lift economic sanctions. Mr. Page testified under oath that he had never met nor spoke with them. He has filed libel lawsuits.


    ..... there are more if you check the link.

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    Basically it's garbage. It's garbage that Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for and was used to justify taking away privacy from American citizens for the sake of attacking a presidential candidate.

    Those who cite it or rely on it do so with great peril.
    You are right your post is garbage. Mueller knows where the lawbreakers are and it's not among the left. The guy is a fucking republican for christs sakes and he doesn't want to look like an ignorant asshole that would swallow the shit you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    I provide 2 other sources... The NY Times and the Washington Examiner.

    I am right. The dossier was purely a creation of the Clinton and DNC funding. That has been established.

    The only parts verified are meager bits that do not hurt Trump. Most of it, per the O.P. remains unverified crap. If it were true, or trusty Left Wing Media would have ran out and verified it.

    The press peddled the crap out of it from Buzz Feed to CNN to ABC News to the NY Times.... they all pushed it like a drug early on. When in fact, it was cancer for the Leftwing Press, the Clintons, the DNC, the DoJ / FBI, and maybe even the Obama Administration. This is the investigation that matters now. It doesn't turn out well for the Left. They played with fire and are getting burned.
    Clinton did not "create" anything. The work was originally started by Steele who was contracted by Fusion GPS. They were the ones who paid Steele, not sure, but it is doubtful that Hillary ever spoke with Steele directly. If she did, I am certainly willing to entertain such a scienerio, until then, I'm guessing that people are leaping to such a conclusion and they don't really know.

    Steele even missed quite a bit more than was included in the Dossier. I'll post more on this when I'm not typing on my phone, I can barely see and I have thick fingers that don't type well.

    What would concern me, is finding portions of the Dossier that were disproven. That would be very bad for those who want to see Trump impeached but good for his supporters.

    I do not want Trump to fight fake charges, if he's guilty of helping Russia he should go, preferably I would like to see him step down if it came to that. What concerns me worse is the division in our country. Already on this very site, people are no longer talking to each other over it. Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Nah... there was plenty of leaks from Mueller's team... and they never had anything substantive regarding Trump.
    What leak came from Mueller's team?

    Really, that is totally made up nonsense. Your argumetn here seems to be to invent an unbelievable premise and then claim it as factual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    In that case, you have nothing to worry about....
    And yet, he's worried -- as he should be. His orange hero is going down and no amount of "Fair & Balanced" spin-crafting can change that.
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